[MEG33]

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[Arrowhead1952]

What do you make of this??????

[sauropod]

Welcome to FR.

[Always Right]

It is my understanding that all Bush had to do was earn 50 points per year to meet his obligation. Bush apparently had a 3-month and and 6-month period where he did not earn any points, but he greatly exceeded the 50 point requirement every year except the last year where he only had 53 points. This is just a story to get the treasonous acts of Kerry off the front page, such as Kerry being in a leadership role in a group that was actively training to kill Senators and other leaders. Kerry lying about not being at certain meeting where they voted to target certain leaders, but fbi files which say Kerry was.

[Mike Fieschko]

I am uninterested in whether the President fulfilled his Guard obligations, and to a large extent, I'm uninterested in whether Kerry deserved his medals.

Unless it's an article by someone who was a Personnel Clerk or the like, back in the 1970s, I discount what comes out.

What was a requirement then and how that requirement was satisfied, and whether there were ways around the requirement, is (to me) such an arcane area that if you try to analyze it now, you risk making more of a fool of yourself than you already are.

That the NYTimes and Boston Globe could be considered reliable sources for military records analysis is past laughable.

Kerry has convinced me with his his message of 'I'm not Bush'.

My vote goes to Bush.

[skeeter]

Refuting Lechliter, the Globe and the Times on Bush's Service

I'm content to let the Democrats & MSM recycle their tired old charges & simply let the voters decide in November.

This is a dead end issue for them if there ever was one. We shouldn't lend our voices to it.

[Leroy S. Mort]

If heroic military service really meant anything significant to the majority of America voters, Poppy Bush and Bob Dole wouldn't have lost to an admitted draft dodger.

I really don't see who the other side thinks it can affect by beating this old dead horse. Maybe they just do it so we'll have something to research. Baffling.

[atomicpossum]

So the Globe's big expert is a military retiree no one has ever heard of? It sounds like there's some major debunking here, considering there are any number of more prominent names you could trot out to lend credence to such an assesment...or would no more prominent names put their name to such a thing?

[aft_lizard]

The problem with this whole stupid argument and especially Lechliter is that if you havent served in the guard or the reserves you wouldnt understand how you earn points.

1. You can earn enough points to have a valid year and STILL have a few AWOLS. The vice versa is true also, you can come up short on points and never be AWOL and still have a bad year.

2. You do not have to attend all drills if you have an excused absence. You can make up missed drills by RTS'ing or a similar accepted time allowed by a commander.

3. It is impossible to receive a DD214 with a honorable discharge and be AWOL at the time of issuance. If you have an AWOL or two you will receive a general or other than honarable discharge (unless you are released due to a unsat then it may be a dishonorable which is highly unlikely in the reserves)if you received a other than honorable or a general disharge then you must wait until your initial contract is expired to have your record reviewed and your discharge upgraded.

The dims never have asked the right people. Gen McPeak, Kerry, Mighty Midget Gen formerly Supreme NATO Attempted WW3 Starting Clarke would not know this, it isnt part of there jobs and they never served in the reserves and or guards.

[Steve_Seattle]

You haven't refuted anything, just cast aspersions on the messenger. But to repeat what I've said elsewhere, I don't think the general public gives a damn about any of this. They see it (and the Swift boat stuff) as mostly partisan mudslinging, maybe with a grain of truth, i.e., maybe Bush got off with some slacking at the end of his service and maybe Kerry got one of his medals under questionable circumstances. But that same public twice voted for Clinton who had no military service, so it's clearly not something the public puts a whole lot of value in. All in all, this whole issue probably helps Bush more than Kerry, which is why I think the Dems are idiots to put so much energy into it. It helps Bush because it takes the debate away from areas where he's vulnerable, e.g., the deficit, health care, and Iraq. But maybe the reason the Dems can't give this up is that they are obsessed with Bush and MUST smear and denigrate him, even against their own best interests.

[HenryLeeII]

1. Geroge W. Bush was required to obtain a certain number of "points" to fulfill his guard duty. He failed to do this.

2. George W. Bush was required to regularly attend drills to fulfill his guard duty. He also failed to do this.

Well, when this POS can produce the document proving that the future president failed to meet the required number of points, wake me up. Also, when these P'sOS can produce the attendance lists from each and every drill Mr. Bush could have/should have attended, wake me up further!

Also, please wake me a third time when any of these pukes provide any sort of context for Bush's supposed slacking off in 1972-73, such as his aircraft (the F-102) being phased out, the USAF and ANG literally begging pilots to resign their commissions due to a glut during the draw-down of personnel in Vietnam, Bush not taking a "required" medical exam since he had already served four years and had no plans or obligation to remain in the ANG, etc.