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To: Theo
He is sovereign over even the things we consider "chance."

If He is sovereign over the things we consider "chance", then he created "chance" itself. That's my point.

If God sat the prophets down who were to put Genesis down on paper and ran a Discovery Channel video on the creation of the Earth and how life evolved, I think they would write "In the beginning, God created the Heaven and Earth ...".

It's all in the interpretation. I can say that "God created 'chance' itself", and you disagree saying "He is sovereign over even ... 'chance'". We said the same thing.

I believe you originally said something to the effect that your children didn't come from random chance mutations. But if God created "chance", then DNA mutations by "chance" were in fact created by God.

Bottom line, I'll restate for the umpteenth time, I believe this whole Crevo argument is a bad thing for Christians, particularly children. I think it will cause many to lose their faith. And it is just something that's not worthwile for Christians to argue about.

Let science talk about science. Christians should talk about living and God.

90 posted on 09/07/2004 4:22:35 PM PDT by narby (Zell Miller - NOT a girlie-man)
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To: narby
Let science talk about science. Christians should talk about living and God.

There are many things I'd like to respond to, most having to do with this absurd notion you've got that once you become a Christian, you're no longer qualified to speak on a scientific level about what the Lord has created. And this notion you have that all scientific evidence supports Evolution and contradicts Creation as described in Scripture.

But I want to comment on this statement you made that I quoted above.

Christians should be in wonder when they consider what God has done. We should be fascinated by the intricacy and beauty and functionality and depth of what he's created. That wonder can express itself as "wow" or "ooh", but it can also express itself as a drive to further explore His creation. Science is a wonderful way to further explore what God has created. It's a logical expression of our sense of wonder at what He's done.

And so to say that Christians should shut up and stay in their little box is just so wrong-headed as to be ridiculous. Little "narby" is telling Galileo to shut up about the world around him and sing a little chorus instead.

You're in need of a worldview shift if you think that Christians have no right to explore the wonder of creation in a scientific way.

115 posted on 09/07/2004 8:25:23 PM PDT by Theo
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