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Bush Lawyer Quits; MoveOn Lawyer Refuses to Quit DNC
NewsMax ^ | 8/25/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 08/25/2004 6:48:53 PM PDT by wagglebee

A lawyer for President Bush who also has advised Swift Boat Veterans for Truth resigned today from Bush's campaign. Meanwhile, a lawyer who works for Democratic National Committee and the Bush-hating group MoveOn.org refused to quit either organization.

"I cannot begin to express my sadness that my legal representations have become a distraction from the critical issues at hand in this election," Benjamin Ginsberg wrote in a resignation letter, which Bush's campaign released.

"I feel I cannot let that continue, so I have decided to resign as national counsel to your campaign to ensure that the giving of legal advice to decorated military veterans, which was entirely within the boundaries of the law, doesn't distract from the real issues upon which you and the country should be focusing."

However, Democrat lawyer Joe Sandler insisted there was nothing wrong with working for DNC as well as for MoveOn.

And Kerry continues to refuse to fire Zach Exley, a campaign staffer who was a director for MoveOn.org, just as Kerry's former campaign manager Jim Jordan refuses to quit the pro-Kerry Media Fund.

The Associated Press reported today, "Ginsberg said Tuesday he never told the Bush campaign what he discussed with the veterans group, or vice versa, and didn't advise the group on ad strategies."

The group "came to me and said, 'We have a point of view we want to get into the First Amendment debate right now. There's a new law. It's very complicated. We want to comply with the law, will you keep us in the bounds of the law?'" he told the wire service. "I said yes, absolutely, as I would do for anyone."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benjaminginsberg; bush; campaignfinance; doublestandard; joesandler; kerry; moveonorg; swiftboatvets; webofconnections
Democrat lawyer Joe Sandler insisted there was nothing wrong with working for DNC as well as for MoveOn.

These people are hypocrites of the worst sort.

Also, when is the press going to clue in on the fact that sKerry's phone calls to the Swift Boat Vets yesterday, was illegal.

1 posted on 08/25/2004 6:48:53 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: wagglebee

How is that illegal?

Don't kill me.. just want to be educated.


2 posted on 08/25/2004 6:51:33 PM PDT by spiced_tea
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To: spiced_tea

It is illegal for a political candidate to be in contact with members of a 527 group. Whether the 527 supports or opposes the candidate is irrelevant, the candidates cannot have any contact with an outside group involved in the election.


3 posted on 08/25/2004 6:56:59 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: wagglebee
Ginsberg was charged today with practicing law while Republican.
4 posted on 08/25/2004 7:00:02 PM PDT by Roscoe Karns
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To: Roscoe Karns
It's all Bush's fault. Just remember that. If anything goes wrong, anywhere in the world, regardless of how it looks, it's Bush's fault!

Repeat that 10 times a day for 30 days and you too can be a proud DUmmie.

/sarcasm off

5 posted on 08/25/2004 7:03:09 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: wagglebee

If true then Kerry should be prosecuted and there should be demands that he resign his Senate seat. Why is our side (a bunch of neutered twirps) unable to fight?


6 posted on 08/25/2004 7:09:17 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk
I heard Roger Hedgecock talking about it on Rush's show today. I haven't checked the law (and probably wouldn't want to), but he seemed rather certain. And it makes perfect sense that no candidate can have contact with these groups.

I presume that Kerry's lawyers would argue that speaking to individual members of a group is different from having direct contact with the group.

7 posted on 08/25/2004 7:13:18 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: wagglebee; DallasMike

However, Democrat lawyer Joe Sandler insisted there was nothing wrong with working for DNC as well as for MoveOn.

And Kerry continues to refuse to fire Zach Exley, a campaign staffer who was a director for MoveOn.org, just as Kerry's former campaign manager Jim Jordan refuses to quit the pro-Kerry Media Fund.




Double standard of Kerry Kampaign & MoveOn......PING


8 posted on 08/25/2004 7:24:42 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: wagglebee

This actually was a smart move by Ginsberg and the Republicans. The stupid hypocritical Democrats refuse to follow suit, and the public knows this.


9 posted on 08/25/2004 7:25:03 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: wagglebee
I presume that Kerry's lawyers would argue that speaking to individual members of a group is different from having direct contact with the group.

If this is true, then you have loop hole large enough to drive a mack truck through.

10 posted on 08/25/2004 7:49:24 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: fhayek

I don't think there's a loophole. I'm just certain that sKerry did it in such a way that any criminal complaint would go to a leftist federal court circuit which will do anything to defend their comrades.


11 posted on 08/25/2004 7:51:46 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: wagglebee
Oh, I'm sure they would try to say that, but it seems to me that if you merely talk to individuals from one of these groups in sequence, and this is permissible, then the entire law is worthless.
12 posted on 08/25/2004 7:55:07 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: fhayek

I don't think it is. But the 'Rats know full well that if they can argue a "grey area", even if its BS, that the courts will go along with it.


13 posted on 08/25/2004 8:01:13 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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To: TommyDale

' This actually was a smart move by Ginsberg and the Republicans. The stupid hypocritical Democrats refuse to follow suit, and the public knows this. '

It was the proper move under the circumstances. If Ginsberg had remained, the litany from the hypocrites (including the media) would have only continued and increased.

The situation should unceasingly be set before the public; and the hypocrisy of Kerry and his minions and their 527 ad forcefully pointed out. This is an opportunity rather than a setback.


14 posted on 08/25/2004 8:59:43 PM PDT by mtntop3 ("He who must know before he believes will never come to full knowledge.")
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To: zip

ping


15 posted on 08/25/2004 9:03:25 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: Mrs Zip; BOBWADE

This is a "oops" ping.


16 posted on 08/25/2004 9:13:32 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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