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Bush's Nephew in Mexico, Calls Arming Of Border Guards 'Reprehensible'
AP ^ | Aug 21, 2004 | MARK STEVENSON

Posted on 08/21/2004 9:04:20 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING

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To: ETERNAL WARMING

I wonder what Bush's nephew thinks of the wall built by the Israeli's?


281 posted on 08/22/2004 5:14:22 PM PDT by O.C. - Old Cracker (When the cracker gets old, you wind up with Old Cracker. - O.C.)
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To: k2blader
Notice the pro-illegal types can't answer that simple question.

I've been down this road before. I really don't expect an answer.

If pro-border types here makes one mis-step, the race card is pulled and we're all lumped together. I will not accept this.

282 posted on 08/22/2004 5:17:35 PM PDT by Missouri (Deport Te-rah-sa)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
The younger Bush... acknowledged at a news conference that the war in Iraq is not popular in Mexico but defended the military action, saying "we're almost done with it."

Isn't that a pretty obvious lie? We're going to be in Iraq as occupiers for at least the next 5-10 years and will likely maintain bases there long afterwards.

283 posted on 08/22/2004 5:22:07 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber
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To: Atossa

OOOh!

Now I suppose you are going to say that Dune foretold 9/11?


284 posted on 08/22/2004 6:43:16 PM PDT by Darksheare (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he still taste like chicken?)
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To: Texas_Dawg

Gee, don't put so much thought into a response next time. I know thinking about the reality of the situation might make your head hurt.....but hey, you're a Texan.....buck up!


285 posted on 08/22/2004 7:23:25 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: Texas_Dawg
How so [will my ideas lead to totalitarianism]?

By advocating that we ignore the mass migrations from the south, you are helping to set the conditions for our own downfall. By fronting for the convenience wing of the Republican party, which for just this year happens to have a policy of encouraging cultural "diversity" through immigration, and overlooking illegal immigration with amnesties in hopes of not offending the recalcitrant left, you are part of the problem rather than giving us solutions. How does illegal and exaggerated legal immigration quotas hurt us, especially from Hispanic, Islamic, and other third-world countries? It's changing our nation one value, one idea, one ethic at a time. In doing so, we:

  1. Replace our base culture, the one that established and fought wars to amend the Constitution -- you know, for religious freedom, freedom of speech, the right to keep and bear arms, freedom from slavery, and all of that... with third world illiterates who can't speak English, don't understand the rule of law, and broke the law to get here in the first place. By 2050 or so, Latinos many of whom are direct descendants of illegal aliens, will be the majority in this country at present rates of population growth. How long do you think they will hold on to our Republic when their first acts when they arrived here was to graft themselves into our socialist institutions? These people have never heard of the Magna Carta. They just want a safe, prosperous place to live. America gives them that, but gets much less in return these days than ever before.
  2. In the process, our leaders ignore our own laws; our own leaders are free to do whatever is convenient to themselves. This erodes trust and integrity. Members of the original population groups become more and more cynical about government and its ability to represent their interests.
  3. As immigration and illegal immigration transform our society, diversity increases and cultural chaos ensues. English is less and less the primary language. The work ethic and moral compatibility in society decliens.
  4. Intellectual elites are training these immigrants and their offspring to hate America's core culture, which they claim "opresses" them. Consider Charles Truxillo, hired and supported by our tax dollars, who teaches Latin Americans at the University of New Mexico that Latinos will retake the American southwest for themselves, forming an Azatlan homeland. Consider the ideas of Edward Said, who was an outspoken critic of America's support for Israel, and who is often quoted by anti-European activists in their screed against America. Consider Noam Chomsky, also quoted extensively by pro-Aztlan and anti-Israel activists.
  5. Try as you might, you can't ignore the thundering ideas of people like Victor Davis Hanson, who also argues that illegal immigration from Latin America is an invasion. He makes the point that by ignoring illegal immigration we are artificially supporting markets here in this country. Open borders are not free markets. Only the heartless would argue that our labor markets are equivalent to those in the third world. You want cheap lettuce, and I'm saying no blood for lettuce. Let American land owners and factory owners hunt for labor supply at rates that can sustain their workers at wages Americans will pay. Sure your lettuce will cost more, but you can handle it. What you can't handle is the destruction of your country.

Remember, you're in good company. You have Edward Said, Osama bin Laden (who appeals to Latinos to join Jihad because Columbus was supported by the regime that brought Islam's end in Spain in the Inquisition), Truxillo, Chomsky, and Michael Moore -- all on your side. They're all eager to have the USA transformed into an ethnic soup that hardly resembles the nation we founded over 200 years ago.

This isn't jaywalking, its the barbarians at the gates, inside the gates, and taking over the language, culture, and life of the land. Read de Soto and Victor Davis Hanson and then come back to argue with me. I'm done with debating you for now.

286 posted on 08/22/2004 8:09:49 PM PDT by risk
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To: k2blader
Notice the pro-illegal types can't answer that simple question.

One thing you'll notice --- the pro-unlimited immigration/open borders types only see the Mexicans as the cheapest possible servants for themselves. They know Mexico is going down the tubes fast with massive migration of it's people out and that only ensures an endless supply of dirt poor people to be their cheap maids and gardeners. They are the real racists who wish only to exploit these people and don't want changes that would improve that country. If you're in the business of hiring illegals, the last thing you want is for conditions back home to improve for them --- then you might not get some live-in servant for only $2-3 an hour.

287 posted on 08/22/2004 8:29:49 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Texas_Dawg
How many immigrants from Mexico do you think should be allowed to come here each year?

None. A few million should be sent home every year, and troops should be on the border to protect America, not only from illegal immigration but from terrorists who might be coming over that porous border too. Here in California we're sick of supporting illegal aliens, we're broke.

289 posted on 08/22/2004 9:56:08 PM PDT by janetgreen (CALIFORNIA - free-for-all for ILLEGAL ALIENS)
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To: janetgreen
None. A few million should be sent home every year, and troops should be on the border to protect America, not only from illegal immigration but from terrorists who might be coming over that porous border too. Here in California we're sick of supporting illegal aliens, we're broke.

Which is my point... you don't just hate illegal immigration. You hate Mexicans.

And Californians are "broke"? Hilarious.

290 posted on 08/23/2004 3:20:30 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (2004 Doom World Tour.)
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To: risk
Hilarious.

We're all doomed.

291 posted on 08/23/2004 3:21:22 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (2004 Doom World Tour.)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Bush would be wise to tell his nephew to keep his mouth shut.

Especially since 80% of Americans want the illegals out.


292 posted on 08/23/2004 6:22:11 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Texas_Dawg
you don't just hate illegal immigration. You hate Mexicans.

You don't even realize how funny (and ignorant) that comment is...

293 posted on 08/23/2004 9:32:00 AM PDT by janetgreen (CALIFORNIA - free-for-all for ILLEGAL ALIENS)
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To: janetgreen
You don't even realize how funny (and ignorant) that comment is...

It couldn't be any more patently obvious.

294 posted on 08/23/2004 9:34:56 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (Pat Buchanan and Kim Jong-Il agree... "Anyone But Bush".)
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