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"War Protesters for Kerry" or "Band of Others"
Personal research - Tim Williams, Plano, Texas

Posted on 08/21/2004 8:19:14 PM PDT by PhatHead

In one of the most-ignored stories surrounding the Swift Boat Vets flap, the head of "Veterans for Kerry" is himself a former Vietnam war protester, who has known Kerry since 1971, and worked on each of his campaigns since 1984.

"Veterans for Kerry" was started by, and is a wholly-owned subsidiary of, Kerry for President. It really isn't an organization at all, but the name of the Kerry campaign's outreach program to veterans, and it's head, picked by John Kerry, was indeed a veteran, but he first met Kerry when they were both war protesters.

The head of the group, John Hurley, a semi-retired Wellesley lawyer, works full-time for the Kerry campaign, and has worked on Kerry's previous campaigns dating back to at least 1984, by his own account. He also marched in the John Kerry/VVAW-organized "Dewey Canyon III" in 1971. (The medal-tossing protest.) Read for yourself:

http://www.drredwood.com/interviews/hurley.shtml

Hurley also has reportedly made calls to try to strong-arm people into changing their recollections of Kerry's VVAW past (such as his presence at the meeting discussing the plot to assassinate Senators):

http://daily.nysun.com/Repository/getFiles.asp?Style=OliveXLib:ArticleToMail&Type=text/html&Path=NYS/2004/03/22&ID=Ar00106

He even posted this note searching for one of Kerry's crew in November, 1996 - remember this when they suggest that Kerry's this "Band of Brothers" reassembled on their own:

http://www.vietvet.org/navy005.htm

In case it's purged later, here's what it says:

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Trying to locate: Delbert "Del" Sandusky

Branch of Service: Navy

Unit was: swift boats

Where served: the Delta

When served: 1969

Message is: Trying to locate Delbert Sandusky for reunion of Swift Boat 94.

Call 617-235-2287

Please contact: John Hurley

Mailing address: 78 Longfellow Rd

City, State, Zip: Wellesley, MA 02181

Or send email to John Hurley using this automatic email form BQI@AOL.com

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It doesn't say, "come work for John Kerry" - it says "trying to locate... for reunion." Why would an Army vet be trying organize a reunion with a Navy guy he'd never met? Obviously, this was a political recruitment - and a dishonest one.

The Swift Boat Veterans for Truth get grilled about whether they've ever voted for a republican, attacked for their contributors, and treated like stealth political operatives, yet every talk show Hurley has appeared on, from hannity, to Hardball to Scarborough - gives a free pass to the guy who actually *is* a political operative.

John Hurley is a longtime Democrat activist and John Kerry supporter. He is not part of any sort of spontaneously formed veterans group in support of Kerry, and it is very dishonest to allow him to present himself as anything other than what he is. Beyond that, his first meeting with Kerry was not in the service, but in the anti-war movement - a "Band of Brothers" with whom Kerry's strongest loyalties, it would seem, still lie.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hurley; johnhurley; kerry; swiftboat; veteransforkerry; vietnam; vvaw
So does anybody know whether Hurley was actually a VVAW member, or did he just march with them and pal around with Kerry?
1 posted on 08/21/2004 8:19:14 PM PDT by PhatHead
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To: PhatHead
You need to change the title of your thread to WHO IS JOHN HURLEY?? AND WHAT HAS HE DONE FOR SEN. KERRY? You will get many replies and lots of info. We need to know if he was at that meeting where assassinating Senators was discussed and VOTED ON!!!!

ALSO WHY is he allowed to be the EXPERT in the media on what happened on SWIFT boats when he wasn't even in the NAVY, let alone on Swift Boats???

Change the title for fellow freepers, please.

2 posted on 08/21/2004 8:26:13 PM PDT by Claire Voyant ((visualize whirled peas))
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To: PhatHead

According to this article hurley was a member of vvaw. Half way down the page it states hurley being a former vvaw member.

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com/kerry_kan_plot2.htm


3 posted on 08/21/2004 8:28:11 PM PDT by CELTICGAEL (Celt) (Freedom isn't free, but if you vote for John Kerry....WE WILL PAY A HIGHER PRICE!!!)
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To: CELTICGAEL (Celt)
This one also

The Star cited the national director of Veterans for Kerry, a former VVAW member, John Hurley, as saying: “I think he is confusing the St. Louis and Kansas City meetings.”

4 posted on 08/21/2004 8:29:22 PM PDT by Texasforever (God can send you to hell but he can't sue you. He can't find a lawyer.)
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To: CELTICGAEL (Celt)

bttt


5 posted on 08/21/2004 8:31:09 PM PDT by Slump Tester
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To: Slump Tester

Here is a little bit more on hurley. I went to vvaw and there was a link to this article.

http://www.interventionmag.com/cms/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=741


6 posted on 08/21/2004 8:35:11 PM PDT by CELTICGAEL (Celt) (Freedom isn't free, but if you vote for John Kerry....WE WILL PAY A HIGHER PRICE!!!)
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To: CELTICGAEL (Celt)

This is the same articel cited in the original post:

http://www.drredwood.com/interviews/hurley.shtml


7 posted on 08/21/2004 8:41:11 PM PDT by PhatHead ("War Protesters for Kerry" or "Band of Others")
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To: PhatHead
John Hurley........MAKES ME HURRRRRRLLLLLL
8 posted on 08/21/2004 8:49:04 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider ((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!))
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To: CELTICGAEL (Celt)

I found that one, but it was such a passing reference I didn't feel comfortable stating it with certainty. I suspect it is true - why else would you march in protest with these guys?


9 posted on 08/21/2004 8:49:30 PM PDT by PhatHead ("War Protesters for Kerry" or "Band of Others")
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To: CELTICGAEL (Celt)
I just feel dirty after being on that site.

Bunch of damn commies!

10 posted on 08/21/2004 9:05:59 PM PDT by Slump Tester
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To: PhatHead
If possible, the next time another Swiftvet is about to be shouted down by Hurley on some talk show, the vet should ask him to explain to the audience who John Musgrave and Tom Pardue are....

Musgrave is the man he called and tried to pressure into changing his opinion that Kerry was at the meeting in which the assassination of government officials was discussed...

Pardue looked into charges made by Hurley that he had seen war crimes committed while a member of the 69th Engineer Battalion in Vietnam, as one of Kerry's VVAW shills. Pardue contacted a large number of former members of the Battalion and discovered not one instance of such crimes. He even wrote to Brinkley with his evidence, and Brinkley admitted the story was wrong and promised to change it in the next edition of his book. Pardue tried to contact Hurley, but Hurley never called him back....

Time to put some hurt on Hurley......

11 posted on 08/21/2004 9:15:19 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

I did send this info about Hurley directly to SWVT - you should, too!


12 posted on 08/21/2004 9:18:20 PM PDT by PhatHead ("War Protesters for Kerry" or "Band of Others")
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To: PhatHead

Actually, the info on Pardue comes from "Unfit..." - I've a hunch they're way ahead of at least me on this.......


13 posted on 08/21/2004 9:46:18 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Here is the thread about Musgrave saying Hurley pressured him to change his story about Kerry being present at that meeting.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1102979/posts


14 posted on 08/21/2004 9:48:59 PM PDT by freespirited
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To: Intolerant in NJ

Maybe, but they are not challenging Hurley when they are on shows with him - and neither are any of the hosts and I am damned sick and tired of it.


15 posted on 08/21/2004 9:51:36 PM PDT by PhatHead ("War Protesters for Kerry" or "Band of Others")
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To: PhatHead

BTTT


16 posted on 08/21/2004 9:55:55 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: musicman

Here's some more info for ya. :-)


17 posted on 08/21/2004 9:57:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

As soon as I see his face, I change channels. I'd sooner watch grass grow!


18 posted on 08/21/2004 10:04:29 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: The only way to Peace is through Victory!)
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To: PhatHead

These old pinko traitors simply can't be allowed to get in the White House. The fact that they might is depressing.

This country had better reject these dangerous a-holes.


19 posted on 08/21/2004 10:29:06 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: PhatHead

Is this the same John Hurley?

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=000&invol=U10260

John Hurley, Kerry Spokesman... anti-gay???


20 posted on 08/22/2004 10:35:30 PM PDT by PhatHead ("War Protesters for Kerry" or "Band of Others")
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