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Fred Barnes: The Bloody Shirt Is Back (Did you know John Kerry served in Vietnam?)
The Weekly Standard ^ | August 30, 2004 | Fred Barnes

Posted on 08/20/2004 8:59:58 PM PDT by RWR8189

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1 posted on 08/20/2004 8:59:58 PM PDT by RWR8189
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"I spit on veterans as a young man and I will spit on them as president," Kerry declared.


2 posted on 08/20/2004 9:03:04 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (The media monopoly is broken-America's Berlin Wall has been torn down!)
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To: RWR8189

Which side?


3 posted on 08/20/2004 9:03:35 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

John kerry will always remember this saying what is done in darkness comes out in the light of day
w2004
ciao


4 posted on 08/20/2004 9:08:49 PM PDT by italianquaker (CATHOLIC AND I VOTE)
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With real-deal hardcore combat types, you generally have to be REALLY patient to hear their stories. The poseurs are the ones who yap about it every five minutes.

I had a guy who works at the apartment complex spot my USMC decal on my car. He ambled over and started talking shop. The first thing he's on about is his 'time with Second Force Reconnaisance' and 'I was involved with' classified this and classified that, and 'oh, you weren't privy to that, were you?' I immediately decided that he was a bullshit artist and continued with what I was doing- making a show of ignoring him. I hate a******s like that.


5 posted on 08/20/2004 9:11:57 PM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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In an era of terrorist attacks, his votes to cut intelligence spending, indeed his overall dovishness, are liabilities. So the theme of nearly every speaker at the Democratic convention in July was that Kerry's Vietnam service, not his Senate record, reflects the kind of president he would be.

And I would humbly submit that the GOP is making a mistake by continuing to focus on Vietnam, rather than focusing on his Senate record.

6 posted on 08/20/2004 9:12:21 PM PDT by Amelia
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When has the GOP focused on Vietnam?


7 posted on 08/20/2004 9:18:30 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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I've got a (real) good friend, it was 2 years before I knew he was a Marine another 2 before he mentioned he was recon in Nam. Even to this day (and it's been 20+ years it's hard to get him to talk about it.

30 yrs later vet gets Purple Heart

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Posted on 03/17/2001 17:03:40 PST by Valin
Over 30years ago thomas Mohs was asked if he wanted a Purple Heart. He was wounded in 1969 while serving in a reconnaissance unit during the Vietnam war. Mohs chose not to accept the award, saying others were more deserving.

Humility stayed with Mohs (52) and three decades later, he still shuns occasions where his efforts are praised. However his family is determined not to let is heroic efforts and those of other veterans go unrecognized.

Mohs grew up in south mpls and was the third child of a family of 13 children. After graduating from south high school, he joined the US Marines Corps and served with the 3rd Recon Marines in Vietnam. Althought he was wounded, he fulfilled his tour awyway.
(snip)


8 posted on 08/20/2004 9:23:12 PM PDT by Valin (Mind like a steel trap - rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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To: ScottFromSpokane

Perhaps not the national party, but go read the latest posts and breaking news. You'll notice the big news lately has been the SwiftVets stuff?


9 posted on 08/20/2004 9:23:16 PM PDT by Amelia
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"With real-deal hardcore combat types, you generally have to be REALLY patient to hear their stories. The poseurs are the ones who yap about it every five minutes."

That has been my experience too. Had a good friend who fought in the Battle of the Bulge. It was like pulling teeth to get him to talk about it. Eventually I gave up.

Kerry is a gasbag and needs to be deflated. Thank you swiftvets for doing that for us.


10 posted on 08/20/2004 9:26:07 PM PDT by fizziwig
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And I would humbly submit that the GOP is making a mistake by continuing to focus on Vietnam, rather than focusing on his Senate record.

1 The GOP isn't, The main attack is coming from the Swiftboat Vets and many of is conservatives and Vets, not the party
2 John Kerry is the one who's made his FOUR(1 2 3 4) months in Viet-Nam the center piece of his campaign.

No flame intended


11 posted on 08/20/2004 9:28:15 PM PDT by Valin (Mind like a steel trap - rusty and illegal in 37 states.)
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Hatriotism is the last refuge of the leftist.


12 posted on 08/20/2004 9:29:35 PM PDT by GulliverSwift (John Fitzgerald Kerry-- Dream on Ketchup Boy)
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Indeed. Contrast your friend with the current Democratic nominee. One can't go to the bathroom without mentioning his 'service', the other has to have any mention of it dragged out of him.

I know which one I'd trust behind me in bad guy country.


13 posted on 08/20/2004 9:29:36 PM PDT by Riley (Need an experienced computer tech in the DC Metro area? I'm looking. Freepmail for details.)
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The Swift Boat Vets have standing to challenge Kerry, that's the key. Nobody can question their own valor or military credentials. Kerry isn't inocculated against them one bit, that's why their claims are getting such traction. Kerry can't just blow them off as he would anyone else by saying "I served and you didn't so don't question me" - because they served as well or better than he did.

Kerry best mind his manners around them, they won't take his putdowns or smirks or usual degrading tactics that he uses against everyone else. And I don't think they really care if doing this hurts themselves personally - they want the truth out and will be dog-goned if anything Kerry says will prevent them from doing it. Real men, real heroes, I admire them.

I'm sure the Carvilles and other toads down at the DNC are dumbfounded by this, that their story is getting such wide play. It's because they are the ideal, in fact the only, messengers who can get past Kerry's defensive shield. I notice that this is precisely when we needed to get the big guns out there, too - after the Democrats' convention, when the campaign really is beginning. If this continues, it could be a sweet fall campaign.

Oh, after a past campaign, Kerry confided to an opponent that there was one way to get him, to pierce his defensive armor, but that nobody had figured it out. He wouldn't say what that was because he feared someone finding it out. I think someone has.

14 posted on 08/20/2004 9:31:38 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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Yeah. In other words, not the GOP, but Freepers, talk show hosts, bloggers, etc.

I agree it would be a mistake for the GOP to focus on Vietnam. That's why I'm glad they're not doing it.


15 posted on 08/20/2004 9:32:36 PM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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John Kerry has spent more time heaping praise upon himself about his service in Vietnam than he did serving in Vietnam


16 posted on 08/20/2004 9:33:00 PM PDT by MJY1288 (John Kerry Says he Would Conduct a More Thoughtful and Sensitive War on Terror)
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To: GulliverSwift

Hatriotism is the last refuge of the leftist.

That is a marvelous word, "Hatriotism". Defines the left rather precisely. Ought to be in Webster's.

thanks.

Blessings, Bobo


17 posted on 08/20/2004 9:38:35 PM PDT by bobo1
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To: Amelia
I originally thought as you did, but not now.

These Swiftvets are believeable, and they are having a devastating effect on Kerry. He's already had 4 or 5 different versions of his "Cambodia" story.

The GOP isn't saying a word. They don't have to.

Look how Kerry's camp is scrambling. They don't know what to say about these guys.

18 posted on 08/20/2004 9:39:56 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Where can I get a four-fin biretta"?--Cardinal Fanfani)
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I've got a (real) good friend, it was 2 years before I knew he was a Marine another 2 before he mentioned he was recon in Nam.

That fits with my observation: Generally speaking, those who say the least, did the most, and vice versa.

19 posted on 08/20/2004 9:40:28 PM PDT by Bob
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The Swift Boat Vets, not the GOP, are focused on Vietnam.
Nevertheless, this is important because what Kerry did in Vietnam and immediately after reveals his character. Character defines leadership. Leadership is critical in the war on terror.


20 posted on 08/20/2004 9:43:53 PM PDT by DianeDePoitiers
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