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VVAW Flyer Slanders Vets (Flash From The Past)

Posted on 08/18/2004 3:02:39 PM PDT by South40



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1 posted on 08/18/2004 3:02:40 PM PDT by South40
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To: South40

There is ALOT of this stuff from the old radical, hippie, sixties-seventies that seems to be showing up on the Internet and elsewhere...........


2 posted on 08/18/2004 3:05:40 PM PDT by soozla (Definition of "Gun Control": USE BOTH HANDS!!)
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To: South40
Oh! Man do I remember this thing!

I wish I had not seen it again.............................

3 posted on 08/18/2004 3:14:29 PM PDT by Cold Heat (http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=20040531140357545)
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To: South40

Democrats need to see this and told where, when, and who distributed it.


4 posted on 08/18/2004 3:26:06 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: gilliam
DemocRATs don't care.

It's the Independents and undecideds who need to see it.

5 posted on 08/18/2004 3:27:37 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: South40

Didn't McCainiac call them " gooks" recently ??


6 posted on 08/18/2004 3:54:33 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: South40

Thank you for posting this. Plaster this thing all over the internet, people...


7 posted on 08/18/2004 4:08:06 PM PDT by dandelion (AKA "The Kerry Fairy" - http://johnkerryquestionfairy.blogspot.com/)
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To: Renegade

Kerry called Repubs who were carrying 'signs' - 'goons'. But maybe McCain came up with something . . .more generic. . .


8 posted on 08/18/2004 5:04:16 PM PDT by cricket (Don't Lose Your Head. . .Vote Republican)
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To: South40; The Sailor; kjfine; Old Sarge; USAF_TSgt; darkwing104; txradioguy; Long Cut; Jet Jaguar; ..

Never Forget what Hanoi Kerry did AND that he did it under a phony Vietnam Vet PING!

Head of Kerry's Vietnam Vets Against the War was Vietnam Vet phony

"...Many of the stories were later shown to be fictional. Other so-called Vietnam veterans, such as the executive secretary of VVAW, Al Hubbard, a self-styled poet ("See what you've become, Amerika," ends one of his Vietnam odes), turned out to have no record of service in Vietnam..."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/commentary/20040313-103742-2364r.htm


"...At the time, Kerry was serving as the point man for the Vietnam Veterans Against the War.


The president of the organization was Al Hubbard, who claimed to be an Air Force captain
who was severely injured during his service in Vietnam.


It turned out Hubbard was a sergeant who never served in Vietnam..."

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39982


"Phony Vietnam veterans alleged in books
Guenter Lewy's 1978 book America in Vietnam (pages 316-317) and B.G. Burkett and Glenna Whitley's Stolen Valor (Verity Press, Inc., Dallas, Texas)(pages 113, 131-137) contain similar information about alleged flaws in Lane's book. Neither book, however, refutes any of the testimony given during the Winter Soldier Investigation.

Lawyer and leftist activist Mark Lane was one of the organizers of Winter Soldier. In 1970, Lane had published a book called Conversations With Americans purporting to be interviews with Vietnam veterans about war crimes, containing Vietnam tales of atrocities. Reporter Neil Sheehan showed some interviewed in Lane's book had never served in Vietnam and others had not been in the situations they described. Lane admitted he did not check military records, as confirmation of details was not relevant. Lane later confirmed these militarty records.
The following are often falsely listed as being participants in Winter Soldier, but were actually in Lane's book instead. This confusion is probably due to Stolen Valor having an explanation of Lane's history within the section on Winter Soldier.
Chuck Onan, stock room clerk in Beaufort, S.C.
Michael Schneider, deserted in Europe and deserted again in the USA.
Terry Whitmore, was in an unpopulated area of Vietnam.
Garry Gianninoto, medical corpsman at battalion headquarters.
VVAW leader and Winter Soldier co-organizer Al Hubbard lied about being an officer, and sustaining war injuries - but he never testified at Winter Soldier .
According to the investigative work of Burkett, Lewy and others, there were many imposters, liars, and plain nutjobs who infiltrated the ranks of the anti-war movement, and, in some cases, testified to war crimes and atrocities that never occurred in order to get attention, sympathy, and, in one documented case, medals and honors."

http://www.worldhistory.com/wiki/W/Winter-Soldier-Investigation.htm


9 posted on 08/18/2004 5:41:39 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: All
I'm John Kerry and I approve
the desecration of the American Flag.



10 posted on 08/18/2004 5:45:16 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree F-R-E-N-C-H-I-N-G)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Phonies!


11 posted on 08/18/2004 5:46:40 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: South40

BTTT


12 posted on 08/18/2004 5:47:55 PM PDT by Unicorn (Two many wimps around The democrats would rather win the WH then win the war-Tom Delay)
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To: South40; All

I print out copies of things I want liberals to see, and I carry them in the trunk of my car, along with scotch tape and thumb tacks. Whenever I go someplace that has a bulletin board, I tack up a flier. One of the diners I go to allows you tape things to the windows.


13 posted on 08/18/2004 5:48:20 PM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: South40

Too bad someone didn't hand these out today outside the VFW convention to jog some memories...

Now what city is the American Legion Convention being held at? Kerry will be speaking there on September 1st?


14 posted on 08/18/2004 5:49:55 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (John is a fighter. He earned his medals the old-fashioned way - THK)
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To: South40

I thought about this flyer while kerry was speaking to the VFW today. I thought about this and that scum bag who spit on my son before he was deployed.


15 posted on 08/18/2004 5:54:07 PM PDT by armymarinemom (Ultimate Flip Flop->I support the Troops but not their mission)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
During the time that Kerry was with the VVAW there was a plot to murder Al Hubbard and Jon Birch.

This plot was reveled to the FBI by an informant in Pittsburgh PA in a memo dated 1/27/72.

The plot was an internal plan within the VVAW!

16 posted on 08/18/2004 6:05:04 PM PDT by stockpirate (The issues surrounding Kerry in Vietnam is a smoke screen! The real issue is VVAW and the FBI docs!)
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To: bentfeather
Excerpt from page 10 of an FBI memo concerning the VVAW has the following information:

"On July 14, 1971 [REDACTED] advised that ROTTMANN and two other VVAW members--all of whom had travled to Finland, Moscow, England, France and Norway--had arrived the John F. Kennedy Internaional Airport on the afternoon [REDACTED] date where they were met by Attorney WILLIAM KUNSTLER."
17 posted on 08/18/2004 6:17:11 PM PDT by stockpirate (The issues surrounding Kerry in Vietnam is a smoke screen! The real issue is VVAW and the FBI docs!)
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To: stockpirate

bump


18 posted on 08/18/2004 6:19:09 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Thanks, see post 17


19 posted on 08/18/2004 6:26:09 PM PDT by stockpirate (The issues surrounding Kerry in Vietnam is a smoke screen! The real issue is VVAW and the FBI docs!)
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To: South40

bump!


20 posted on 08/18/2004 6:58:15 PM PDT by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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