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The Woodstock Myth
Front Page Magazine ^ | August 156, 2004 | Michael P. Tremoglie

Posted on 08/16/2004 1:17:29 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Yes, Woodstock was a filthy mess.

But all this obscures the real significance of Woodstock: it was when the "counter-culture" became the mainstream culture in this country. By the time I was in high school in 1974, rock music was on TV commercials, and a large fraction of the young smoked the drugs.

We are still working through the cultural fall-out from Woodstock: drug addiction, sexually-transmitted diseases, and broken families.

21 posted on 08/16/2004 5:48:58 AM PDT by megatherium
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To: ken5050

Probably none since liberal hippies are full of shit and keep it in.


22 posted on 08/16/2004 5:49:04 AM PDT by gunnygail (John F Kerry sure can "parlez vous a HUMMA HUMMA!")
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To: wardaddy

ping


23 posted on 08/16/2004 5:51:30 AM PDT by WKB (3! ~ Psa. 12 8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.")
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To: megatherium
We are still working through the cultural fall-out from Woodstock: drug addiction, sexually-transmitted diseases, and broken families.

And Americans are still emotionally bleeding from Kerry and his anti-war actions.

24 posted on 08/16/2004 6:23:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A ticket was approximately eighteen dollars. In an era when the minimum wage was $1.60/hour, a ticket was two days' pay.

And we are to believe that these people had jobs?

And jobs doing what? (Keep in mind that there very few McDonalds in those days)

25 posted on 08/16/2004 6:29:05 AM PDT by harrycarey
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To: dfwgator
John Kerry was there when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. LOL..you're on a roll
26 posted on 08/16/2004 6:35:04 AM PDT by MP5 (The memory is seared, seared in my mind)
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To: AlbertWang

"...John Kerry was at Woodstock over Christmas 1968..."

No he wasn't. He was orbiting the moon with Borman, Lovell, and Anders on Apollo 8 Christmas, 1968.

Or was he in North Korea, rescuing the Pueblo crew?

Both would be as big a lie as the Cambodia lie he's telling these days.


27 posted on 08/16/2004 6:43:24 AM PDT by NCC-1701 (ISLAM IS A CULT, PURE AND SIMPLE!!!!! IT MUST BE ERADICATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: sushiman

I was one of the 500,000 ...just turned 17 years old in the summer of 1969 ...my friend Ralph and I hitch-hiked from Andover , CT ( eastern CT near UConn ) all the way to the festival . We went for the music ( mainly The Who ; Jimi Hendrix ; CCR ...) . We made it to New Paltz , NY the first day . With no place to stay , we inquired at a bus station where , fortunately , a young sympathizer was working . He made a phone call to his buddy , and the next thing we knew we were spending the night in a huge house which belonged to a Prof at the local college . The Prof and his family were 80% moved out of the place so they offered it to us , two total strangers , for the night ! We had the whole place to ourselves . The next morning the dude from the bus station showeed up and offered to drive us all the way to the festival ( never made it due to huge traffic jams ) . These folks I am positive were libs , especially the Prof with whom we spoke on the phone . They treated us like long lost friends , and we were very grateful indeed .

Nobody expected 500000 people to show up
at Woodstock , least of all us . We were totally unprepared food-wise ( we brought some nuts and raisins ! ) and it was trek and a half through 1000s of people to the over-crowded food stalls . Well , total strangers sitting near us shared what little food they had with us . Probably voted for Clinton years later .



Hitching back from Woodstock , we were picked up by a Navy recruiter in Danbury , CT or thereabouts and the guy threatened to beat the shit out of us because our hair was too long ( Coincidentally , my long haired buddy Ralph ended up joining the Navy a couple of years later ) . It was a helluva ride let me tell ya . We were hassled by clean cut travelling salesmen and other red neck types during our trip .

Don't be too quick to paint all hippies or their long ago
sympathizers as a--holes ! A--holes exist in all directions - left , center and right . Right ?


28 posted on 08/16/2004 7:15:26 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: ken5050

" And how many port-a-potties were there? "

Not enough ! I believe only 50000 tickets were sold , but 10 times that many people ended up at the festival !


29 posted on 08/16/2004 7:20:28 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: q_an_a

" about four weeks after woodstock I heard Crosby Stills et al in Calif. they "

I wasn't into CSN at the time . They were very " nervous " at Woodstock , as it was their first gig . They were OK ...nothing great . Their first two albums were excellent , though . Definitely a much stronger in the studio than live .


30 posted on 08/16/2004 7:22:41 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: WKB; onyx; dixiechick2000; bourbon; Yudan; Mr. Mojo
I am ambivalent about the music and some of the hedonism of that era....I was 12 in late 69 so I was later in the Boomer Curve.

I am not ambivalent about the politics or the creature all of that and the culture has evolved into.....basically garbage catering to the most primordial human urges.

I regret the part I played in the end of that era later in the 70s....like campaigning for Carter, ACLU, Sierra Club, FOTE, NORML advocacy.

OK ...confession is over.

The music and the girls of the early 70s (Disco sucked) and some of the bacchanalia were fun. The only drug besides pot I ever really liked truly back then were Quaaludes...."Hide yer Daughters" for Gawdsakes!

Do I want my children to relive that? No, but today they can do even worse and it's not being a "freak" or a part of something uncommon.....it is the culture now....and yes that is damning as well.

However as far as youth culture goes, I most loathe Gangsta or general thuggishness (b or w) but that's just me and we had none of that crap in 74. There was much less acrimony on that score and I was raised at ground zero for dat stuff.

Wardiddy Out....gotta go put out fires.
31 posted on 08/16/2004 7:34:52 AM PDT by wardaddy (Support the Swifties!)
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To: megatherium
But all this obscures the real significance of Woodstock: it was when the "counter-culture" became the mainstream culture in this country. By the time I was in high school in 1974, rock music was on TV commercials, and a large fraction of the young smoked the drugs. We are still working through the cultural fall-out from Woodstock: drug addiction, sexually-transmitted diseases, and broken families.

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Well said. I graduated in '69, Woodstock happened five weeks later. Throughout HS there was very minimal (I do mean very) drug use. In the school year that began September '69 (the class of '70) there was an explosion of reefer and ludes. The school went from near zero problem to kids passing out over the course of one summer...the Woodstock Summer.

We lived two hours away at the time. A lot of kids went and wore it like a badge. Even more lied about having gone. We thought they were all a-holes.

32 posted on 08/16/2004 7:43:02 AM PDT by wtc911 (I have half a Snickers...it was given to me by a CIA guy as we went into Cambodia)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
How ironic that the people who criticize President George W. Bush’s National Guard service were probably saved from starvation by his brethren.

A little bit of an overstatement. It was only a 3-day concert. Not many people "starve" if they don't eat for 3 days.

33 posted on 08/16/2004 8:15:06 AM PDT by sharktrager (The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And the paving contractor lives in Chappaqua.)
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To: sushiman
Definitely a much stronger in the studio than live .

Especially when Neil Young was there to keep them in line.

34 posted on 08/16/2004 8:50:38 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: wardaddy; WKB; bourbon; Yudan; onyx; Magnolia

This is a good article. Thanks for the ping.

The music of that day was fantastic! I still
listen to CSNY, Hendrix, Steppenwolf, et al.
But, the rest of that era was pure garbage.
The folks who generally populated Woodstock
remind me of the ELF/ALF/PETA crowd now.

Disco did, still does, and always will, suck. ;o)


"Do I want my children to relive that? No, but today they can do even worse and it's not being a "freak" or a part of something uncommon.....it is the culture now....and yes that is damning as well."


That is VERY true, wardaddy. And, it IS damning.


35 posted on 08/16/2004 8:57:10 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (President Bush is a mensch in cowboy boots.)
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To: megatherium

You obviously know a lot more about Phish than I do or care to. However, having spoken with several concert-goers, it's still about the drugs and the "no arrest" policy at their weekend-long jam sessions.


36 posted on 08/16/2004 10:00:12 AM PDT by aardvark1 (I am doing this because I can.)
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To: wardaddy; WKB; dixiechick2000; bourbon; Yudan; MagnoliaMS
I'll read this later,
but I will bow to WKB's music critique.
I like most of that era's music.
37 posted on 08/16/2004 11:01:18 AM PDT by onyx (JohnKerry -- the standard bearer for the unbearable)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Something without the tongue clucking: How Woodstock Happened ...
38 posted on 08/16/2004 11:05:24 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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To: dfwgator

Although Max Yasgur was paid $75,000, the damage done to his property was probably far greater. Any know anything about that?


39 posted on 08/16/2004 11:08:57 AM PDT by Hildy (John Edwards is to Dick Cheney what Potsie was to the Fonz.)
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To: aardvark1

What did one Phish fan say to the other after the drugs wore off?


Man, this band sucks.


40 posted on 08/16/2004 11:10:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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