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A Governor's Downfall, in 20 Wrenching Days
NYTIMES ^ | 08/15/04 | DAVID KOCIENIEWSKI

Posted on 08/14/2004 6:05:42 PM PDT by Pikamax

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1 posted on 08/14/2004 6:05:43 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax
New Jersey and its Whore-Gov. McGreevey scammed Homeland Security.

What will happen?
ANSWER: Did anything happen to Berger or Gorelick except that they were rewarded?

Who would have ever thought that the Sopranos have more integrity
in their little finger than the rest of the state of New Jersey?

2 posted on 08/14/2004 6:14:58 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: Pikamax
When I first heard of Gov. McGreevey's press conference, my reaction was that it was very sad. I knew nothing about McGreevey--didn't even know who he was. But my opinion was that if there were no more to the story than that a homosexual governor had had a homosexual affair and admitted it, it should not be necessary for him to resign.

Similarly, when the Lawinsky affair was exposed, if Bill Clinton had admitted it to the public and pointed out that both parties were over 21 years old, the political damage to him would have been negligible.

It was the lying, purjury, attempts to fix a court case, intimidation of witnesses, and other evidence of corruption that outraged President Clinton's critics.

His defenders intentionally misunderstood the cause of this outrage and for purposes of propaganda attributed it to other, less than honorable causes, e.g. prudery.

Thus, to a considerable degree, they deflected the criticism of his behavior from its true cause to an absurd invention that they created to serve their purposes.

3 posted on 08/14/2004 6:17:12 PM PDT by Savage Beast ("Anybody but Bush!" ~Al Qaida/Vote Democrat!-bin Laden/Kerry for President~Zawahiri/Yeah! ~Streisand)
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I was away on Vacation, as McGreevey, the NJ Democratic Governor, came out of the Closet. What a Hoot! What is next, McGreevey and Kerry will go on record as having had an affair????? Will McGreevey be upset, because Kerry is having an affair with Leo DeCaprio?

Of course the last part was hypothetical, but it could happen, after all they are "democrats". Just when you think the Democrats can not shock you anymore, they find new and creative ways to do so.

4 posted on 08/14/2004 6:18:36 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776
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McGay's father was a "Marine drill instructor"? Hah!!


5 posted on 08/14/2004 6:20:17 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Pikamax

The spin of the Slimes never ceases to amaze me.


6 posted on 08/14/2004 6:23:15 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy's driving has killed more people than second hand smoke)
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Notice that every step of the way McGreevey was consulting with a pack of well-heeled, high-powered crooks. Is anyone surprised that Robert ("the Jersey cur-dog") showed up in the middle of this mess? And at all times, even in the favorable coverage of the Times, the issue was not what is the right course of action but instead, what can we get away with?

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "Says the Wuss: Ma, He's Touching Me"

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7 posted on 08/14/2004 6:25:28 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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If McGreevey resigned, why are we still stuck with him until November?!?!

Found my new tag-line...
8 posted on 08/14/2004 6:25:50 PM PDT by Antoninus (If McGreevey resigned, why are we still stuck with him until November?!?!)
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A couple of observations on this article:

1. It is not really very sympathetic to McGreevey, which tells me that the NYT and the rest of the Rats are cuttng him loose.

2. Human Rights Campaign was one of the first groups touting his "courage." We now find out that Human Rights was a consultant in ths mess, rendering their opinion useless.

9 posted on 08/14/2004 6:32:48 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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""He didn't just look relieved," Mr. Lesniak said. "He was relieved."

In other words, he peed in his pants.


10 posted on 08/14/2004 6:34:44 PM PDT by billhilly (If you're lurking here from DU, I trust this post will make you sick)
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who alerted James P. Fox, Mr. McGreevey's powerful chief of staff.

Mr. Fox, who is openly gay,

How was Mr Fox selected for his job?

11 posted on 08/14/2004 6:38:05 PM PDT by PAR35
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Of course, McGreevy's downfall was more than a 'twenty day' implosion; it started long ago; . . .it was secured by sharing the 'Clinton values'. . .and the typical Liberal inclinations to 'abuse of power'- 'I did it; because I could'. . .
12 posted on 08/14/2004 6:44:16 PM PDT by cricket (Don't Lose Your Head. . .Vote Republican)
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It's fun watching these democrat governors getting picked off. Here in California, I got to help governor davis get the heave ho. Now I've got a nice balcony seat with plenty of hot buttered popcorn from which to watch McGreevey take his well-earned nose-dive into the political graveyard. Entertainment at its best.


13 posted on 08/14/2004 6:56:08 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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The real story is not that McGreevey is mis-oriented, that his problem, but that he gave his lover a State job that paid $110,000 a year. This a typical Democrat that raised taxes on the average Joe. The job of Homeland Security Adviser, which is so important in these troubling times, a job that his lover was not remotely qualified for tells it all. Shades of Barney Franks!

how do people like this get elected, is McGreevey a lawyer?

14 posted on 08/14/2004 6:57:10 PM PDT by BIGZ
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To: Miss Marple
I have a couple of observations as well:

1. The NYT would pursue the power equation explanation if this were a conservative and a subordinate. In other words, the "was is consensual or not?" would not be a question at all since a boss has implicit power over a subordinate so it was de facto sexual harrasment and could NOT be consensual since the Marxian perspective would indicate the ruling class ALWAYS abuses those below them.

2. This guy's dad was a marine drill instructor? My own armchair analysis is that his dad was distant and stern with no emotional input. He is a homo because he is searching for the male approval and affirmation he never got at home. Homosexual inclination may or may not be inborne, but the behavior is symptomatic of a void of proper male affection.

15 posted on 08/14/2004 7:01:02 PM PDT by keithtoo
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"The most dramatic line the governor eventually uttered — "I am a gay American" — was developed by the group and was a poll-tested phrase used to reframe the debate about gay causes from one about sexual liberation to one about civil rights."

They admit they spin, but no one cares.


16 posted on 08/14/2004 7:04:24 PM PDT by jocon307
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I would agree with your #2, especially. Having his parents on the podium with him was payback, IMHO.

Not that I agree with McGreevey's behavior towards his parents. I simply think it was a stealth manner of skewering his dad. Almost no one in the media has asked about this. Seems to me one should ask questions about WHY he made his parents stand there with him.

17 posted on 08/14/2004 7:06:04 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Congressman Billybob

He gave a gay lover the job of Homeland security adviser after 9-11. Put the entire state at risk to employ a foreign gay lover. They were trying to get permits approved to build a school. NJ dems are totally corrupt with builders and developers of all kinds. McGreevy's people immediately thought it might be an FBI sting - because they are as crooked as the day is long. Torricelli, Kushner - all the crooks' names come up. What more do you need to know than that he played with is willie on the issue of terrorist attacks after hundreds from NJ had died? A total corrupt disgrace.


18 posted on 08/14/2004 7:20:17 PM PDT by Williams
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"Most dramatic line" - "I am a gay American." How about, I am a gay Frenchman. That would have been even more dramatic.
19 posted on 08/14/2004 7:22:58 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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You got to be kidding!! The whole entire sordid, sick and crooked story is about ways to avoid the inevitable outcome for being a bunch of immorals, crooked and sick bastards...

"Mr. Fox, who is openly gay, pressed Mr. McGreevey for a full and detailed description of his relationship with Mr. Cipel." ,...."I am a gay American" — was developed by the group and was a poll-tested phrase used to reframe the debate about gay causes from one about sexual liberation to one about civil rights."

Once again the Democrats spin garbage and filth into CIVIL RIGHTS. The reality is sordid and sickening but under the PC cover, who would dare call it that.


20 posted on 08/14/2004 7:24:49 PM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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