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1 posted on 08/14/2004 12:41:28 PM PDT by Puntagorda
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Great report..has anyone seen any reports about Sanibel or Captiva...are they still there?


42 posted on 08/14/2004 1:15:21 PM PDT by ken5050 (We've looked for WMD in Iraq for LESS time than Hillary looked for the Rose Law firm billing records)
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The closer the buildings were to the Peace River, the more the destruction.

Gives new meaning to 1st Thessalonians 5:3: For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Prophectic foreshadow of things to come? I think we will get a lot of answers soon. This election will tell us a lot about where America stands. It truly is an election about good versus evil.

50 posted on 08/14/2004 1:20:46 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Cream rises to the top, but in a secular culture, so does the slime.)
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Democrats on DU are complaining about the Hurricaine because Kerry can't campaign in Florida. Unbelievable!!!


59 posted on 08/14/2004 1:31:15 PM PDT by etradervic (Kerry is a Left Wing Dinosaur)
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Glad to hear you are ok! As a veteran of Hurricane Andrew (ground Zero), you and your city mates have my deepest sympathies.

Stay cool friend! (You'll know what I mean, nights may be brutal).

61 posted on 08/14/2004 1:32:28 PM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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Here is a first hand article from the HIRT team while they were in the storm: Amazing read!



The crew of the Hurricane Intercept Research Team is safe- but just barely. We were just west of Port Charlotte and several miles north of Punta Gorda at the overpass of exit 170 on I-75. We set up our equipment atop of the Chevy Tahoe by around 2:30pm. At 4:32pm or so we took a wind gust to 127 mph just as the eyewall came over our location. Rocks began pelting the vehicle- trees were being ripped apart and the rain was just like an intense car wash- virtually no visibility. We used the overpass as a shelter and there were several other vehicles under there as well- people stuck out in the hurricane.

The wind increased as signs and wood pieces flew by. Trees continued to shred and rip apart. Then- we saw an entire building come apart and its whole roof fly through the air and impact the embankment of the Interstate. At this point the rain coming around the overpass embankment turned muddy- filled with soil. It was roaring so loud that we could not hear ourselves talk. More rocks hit the Tahoe. Then a monster gust hit us and blinded us all with muddy, wind driven rain. This kept on for about 15 to 20 minutes until it let up just for a few seconds.

I could see behind me to our west where a bright light shone through the clouds- like it was clearing out. But this was west of us by a good ways- not just down the street. It was coming from the direction Punta Gorda and Port Charlotte. Just then- the biggest gust of the day hit us extremely hard- we heard crashing sounds, glass breaking and all sorts of debris hitting the truck. It was total fury with no visibility at all. The truck was surrounded in blasting wind and debirs. Then- in a matter of seconds, literally, only 3 to 5 seconds, it came to an immediate halt. ZERO wind. The clear spot opened up right over us as the eye passed over head. People got out of their cars and screamed from fear and exhilaration. I grabbed my camera and got out to take a look to our east. I could see the eyewall moving away rapidly- and then a little bit of sunshine broke out.

There was an eerie calm and the pressure kepy dropping to 944.3 mb on our vehicle. I ran up the concrete embankment of the overpass to peak over to the area where there was a hotel and several buildings. The scene was unreal. Large trees was gone, wood was scattered everywhere, light towers were snapped off and large pieces of building and roof material were impacted into the I-75 embankment. Again- I could hear people yelling out and hollering just to release their tension.

Within 5 minutes, the other side of the eyewall passed through. It was almost as bad and came up within just a few minutes. Winds quickly reached 117 mph on the Tahoe with plenty of readings over 100. The pressure rose very quickly as the eye left and the eyewall came back over. We endured another 30 minutes of pure hell once again and then the wind let up enough to see.

As things calmed down- we drove around the immediate area and saw entire buildings collapsed and destroyed. Large street lights were pulled out of the concrete and thrown onto the stoplight powerlines. Cell phone towers were shredded but not toppled. There was debris and glass everywhere. Entire trees were ripped out of the ground and dragged across the pavement. It was an intense event to say the least.

I am now a true believe at the power of the wind. I have seen storm surge and avoid that at all costs- but now that I have been through the eyewall of a category 4 hurricane, I will never place myself in that position again. And to know how many people died as a result of this hurricane is such a sad situation. I survived but only because nothing impacted the truck hard enough to cause injury to me or my crew. Luck is the reason we are okay.

So now I face the future of my hurricane field work. After what I went through with my team- I will not be in the core of a major hurricane ever again. I have been fascinated with hurricanes ever since I was a child and this was far worse than anything I could have ever imagined. I have a solution to the problem of wanting the data and the images without putting lives at risk. I will unveil this solution on my website next week. It was not ready for this mission otherwise I would have used it. I assure you it will be ready for the next major hurricane.

I will post video and data from our mission on HurricaneTrack.com as soon as I can next week. We have a data log of the wind up until one of the anemometers was taken out by debris. This will be an event that I'll never forget. And I am very thankful to be alive.

Mark
http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=37292


91 posted on 08/14/2004 2:02:51 PM PDT by Giddyupgo
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Anybody know where the street Malone Ave. is in Port Charlotte? Wew have an aunt and uncle and two cousins living on that street. Got a phone call through another cousin that they evacuated and are all right but probably lost their homes. They were modest homes.

I have been reading the info. on insurance with great interest. Aunt and uncle are retired; he from the steel mills in Granite city Illinois.

Thanks for any info.


92 posted on 08/14/2004 2:04:03 PM PDT by squarebarb
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Neither city had been hit or threatened by a Hurricane in more than 75 years.

Check your history. Ask about Donna.

I was in Tampa at the time. Tampa has dodged another bullet. Punta Gorda and Port Charlotte were not so lucky.

101 posted on 08/14/2004 2:27:29 PM PDT by stboz
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Great information ... my neighbor (live in SW Ohio) just packed up a trailer with essential items, generator, pump, various tools, etc. and left for Puenta Gorda two hours ago. He and his wife have a condominium in Puenta Gorda, on one of the canals, or at least it's on the water, perhaps the river ... in any case they really didn't have specific information on what to expect because land lines and cell phones aren't working in that area. My neighbor is handy with tools so at the very least hopes to salvage what's left, or, if the condo is still intact, secure it as best he can. Wish I had this info earlier today when I was speaking to him ... but certainly appreciate your effort in keeping us informed here at FR.
103 posted on 08/14/2004 2:29:59 PM PDT by BluH2o
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Have you heard anything about damage on Pine Island?


113 posted on 08/14/2004 3:06:17 PM PDT by nunya bidness (Live Strong)
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I spent a lot of time in Punta Gorda as a kid. I live in Osprey now, just up the road from you. Punta Gorda is a nice little town and I pray for the safety of all there. God be with you.


115 posted on 08/14/2004 3:15:55 PM PDT by dukeman
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I made a trip to Kissimmee to avoid Charley and was relieved for a short while, when I heard that the path changed. The path changing is one of those mixed blessings; it isn't going to hit you, but you know it's going to hit someone.

While checking into the hotel next to Orlando International Airport shortly before 3, Kissimmee got it's first squall line, which was unnerving since i had just received a call that the storm was coming towards Orlando.

In the first squall line, the sky went from slightly overcast to dark in less than 10 minutes. First the wind kicked up and then rain came flying through. I say flying since it wasn't the normal rain we get in the thunderstorms, which is heavy and falls pretty much vertically, this flew across the car, more horizontal than vertical. The xterra was being pushed around a little bit.

After checking in and getting settled, I started watching the news and confirmed that I had moved into the path of the storm and my apt in Tampa, was high and dry. Sigh.

The Orlando stations radio/tv were doing a great job in getting the word out and the warnings and advice were the exact same things I had heard in Tampa the day before. There definitely was a sense of urgency, since the projected path from Tampa was supposed to go up I75 towards Ocala, which would have skipped the Orlando region.

All over I4, there are traffic cameras which provide video feeds, so an interesting view of the storm developed. The tv stations were able to show the storm's progress up I4 as the night progressed.

The doppler radar was amazing, the projected speeds and impact points and times seemed pretty dead on. We would get prior warnings about when to expect the winds, the rain, and finally the wall, which provided a sense of security through the knowledge it gave you.

Then, starting around 8:00PM, the wind started picking up. I was happy to see that the wind blew parallel to my window, since I was concerned that wind would blow directly into the window (I was on the 4th floor).

In the next half hour, the accelleration of the storm conditions was amazing. I'm used to gusting, but this was completely different. Everything just kept getting faster and faster.

Behind the hotel is a long term parking lot for the airport and next to that was a lighted car rental agency. The light from that car rental agency provided a view of the storm coming through.

The lights dimmed 3 or 4 times before finally going out after 8:30pm and that's when it hit Kissimmee.

My first impressions were of the strange lightning. Well, it wasn't lightning, it turned out there were transformers blowing all over the place. You would see an odd blue-green glow and then there would be an explosion of sparks and sometimes there was a strange humming noise. That happened all over the place.

The window in my room held up very well and while there was quite a bit of shaking and vibration, I felt 'safe' standing a few feet back and watching the storm come through.

Since the lights at the car rental agency remained on, I could see the _waves_ of rain come flying through and while there was a bunch of rain coming through, none of it stayed on the ground, since it was blown away immediately.

The sound was hard to describe. I've heard the wind from some heavy thunder storms and it reminded me of that, except it was much louder and constant. It wasn't just the howling and roar I've heard from occaisional gusts, it just kept going and going.

Suprisingly, I had cell phone service during the whole affair, so my friends and family kept getting calls from me. It must have been a height/range thing though, because once when I went to the 1st floor, my service dropped.

From the video you see on tv, I was expecting to see the stuff (grass, leaves, etc) flying around, but I was couldn't get over the amount of chaos inside the storm. It wasn't as if stuff moved just right to left, but you would have pockets of wind that would throw stuff the opposite way or spin it around.

The palm trees were unreal. You would seem them bending and bending, but they didn't break.

Some of the younger trees in the parking lot went over in this stage.

I was doing fine in this part of the storm, but then there was another 'stage' where the winds, the rains and the noise amped up to another level. The only way to describe it is "more, much more".

It was in this heavy part of the storm that larger items starting flying around. You could see pieces of aluminum siding or sheeting blowing around. It looks like when you blow the paper wrapped off the end of a straw.

The aluminum sheeting was unnerving. You'd heard it flying through the air and then it would hit something with a bang. If it landed, you'd hear it scraping across the ground which sounds like something out of a movie.

Unfortunately, some of the sheeting was coming off our roof and flying into the long term parking, so I feel bad about the people coming back and finding their car with the damage from sheeting hitting it.

It was at this point, the eye came through. Since Charley had come half way across the state, it wasn't the dead calm center you hear about, but it was a breather compared to what we had just been through. It gave some of us a chance to come out in the hall and see how everyone was doing. I had met other people from the Tampa Bay area there and they were nervous, but ok. It was a pet-friendly hotel and the dogs I saw seemed ok, not great, but ok.

I saw some people checking on cars with flashlights through the windows, but nobody wanted to go outside, which is smart.

The eye passed all too quickly and it started up again. It is odd how you get 'used' to something and the noises from the backside of the storm were completely different than what I heard before. That was odd, to say the least.

I guess the front side of the storm loosened up some stuff and the back side came along to finish the job. Right away, sheeting was flying around again and hitting things.

The fancy metal parking lot lights didn't break, but looked like some kind of crazy metronomes; each one moving to their own time.

The first sign of the movement of the storm away from us was the lessening of the rain (and the wind, but that took longer to go away) and the transformers. Yep, it seemed you could follow the path of the storm, by the way the transformers would light up the night further and further away from us. Also, even thought the night ws dark, there was a nig chunk of the sky that was even blacker and it was going away from us.

After the winds died down enough (the clouds were racing by for quite a while though), we started going out and there were trees down all over the place. In our hotel, I didn't hear of injuries, thank goodness, but there were some cars damaged.

I can not imagine how the people in Punta Gorda got through a cat4, a cat2 was bad enough for me. Although it was a huge hassle to get evacuated and I evacutated _into_ the path of the storm, I know there's no sticking it out for me in the future.

I have to give the power people a huge amount of credit, we got power back on at 5:30am. After driving out of Kissimmee this morning, I can't imagine the amount of line work that will need to be done. There are lines down, poles down, poles snapped tensioning the lines, lines wrapped up in trees, etc. What a dangerous mess for them.


135 posted on 08/14/2004 5:45:54 PM PDT by bobwoodard
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No one here expected the hurricane to hit, the forecasters kept telling us it was going to hit 120 miles north. We were stunned when Charley was upgraded from a low category II to a dangerous category IV just hours before it hit.

I posted this at 1:29 PM EDT:

Charlie now a Cat 4 storm. 145 mph winds. New track is much more to East. Orlando - Lakeland directly in path. Much closer to Andrew like.

So it was reported -- I got it from MSNBC and the NHC.

They reported it as soon as it turned.

Nobody knew because nobody knew.

137 posted on 08/14/2004 5:53:18 PM PDT by Howlin (Kerry being called a war hero is "a colloquialism.")
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The TV news media is concentrating on Punta Gorda but the rest of the State got hit pretty hard too. My brother and his wife in Orlando spent the time in the utility closet and now they have a tree in their Van. Still no word from my peeps in Daytona....

Check out the pics on these 2 sites:

Daytona Beach News Journal

Orlando Sentinel

166 posted on 08/14/2004 6:58:57 PM PDT by Musket
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My great aunt lives on Belaire Ct. in Punta Gorda. I haven't heard from any relatives on her status. She is in her 80's. Do you know anything about that part of town? Thanks.


173 posted on 08/14/2004 7:25:47 PM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Hold on to your hats.....it's going to be a bumpy night")
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My elderly aunt and uncle have a mobile home at Sunshine Village in Fort Myers. Do you know anything about conditions there?

Prayers for all souls affected by this storm. There is a lot of grieving and rebuilding ahead.

181 posted on 08/14/2004 7:56:39 PM PDT by Think free or die
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