I've probably been as big an advocate of Schwarzenegger as there has been on this forum, so I'll respond to your comments.
Shhhh.... don't tell anybody, especially the media! Gotta keep the charade going so those poll numbers look good.
Since Schwarzenegger announced his intention to run for office, I have advocated only one thing. "Please address reality, and don't let your own personal bias cloud the issues." Today I'm still here suggesting that's the proper course of action.
If Schwarzenegger takes action we don't like, we should say so. When he takes action we do like, we should say so. It's okay to be leary of him taking action down the road, and work to make sure he doesn't, but trashing him for something that he hasn't done isn't productive. Explain the facts and elicit support for what you precieve is the proper course of action. Then work together with folks to influence his and other people's decisions. That is productive. Endless threads and comments displaying contempt for Schwarzenegger aren't. Endless threads and comments displaying contempt for folks who won't trash Schwarzenegger with you isn't either. Keep it on policy and they will more than likely agree with you.
Arnold is doin' a FANTASTIC job! He's moved mountains!
I have only seen a couple of comments that could be construed like this, and I didn't consider the people who made them to be very deep on the issues. Most of the comments in support of Schwarzenegger have been luke warm. For instance, I like what he did here, but I am still leary of... I've been perfectly willing to criticize him on land issues, his meager cuts in the budget to this point and a few other items. I have said that I do not want him to approve of driver's licenses for illegals, and would consider that and other actions by him to be dead wrong. That would make me angry.
Basicly, this one line by you isn't very accurate. It's thrown out there, but in truth it doesn't describe any regular supporters of Schwarzenegger I've seen.
From the beginning I've said that Schwarzenegger would do some things I liked and many things I would detest. That's basic Reality 101, IMO. It doesn't cause me to hate him.
He is reforming state government.
This is not a very reasoned comment. First of all, it appears he is going to reform state government. That being said, there are good, bad and neutral reforms. It's my concern that his reforms are going to come in more neutral to bad than I want. If you wish to address that, then be my guest. This comment of yours was meaningless.
Anything bad isn't his fault... it's those awful dems in the legislature that really have the power.
The reality is, that Scharzenegger cannot pass law on his own. He can submit a budget that the legislature will reject, spend months fighting them over it, watch schools, hospitals and other public concerns go down in flames, or he can do the best he can and try to chip away at issues in between the budget process. His commission ready to make suggestions, I think he's going to address issues during the upcoming months. Some of them I'll be happy about, and probably more than not, I'll be unhappy about them.
I haven't seen anyone say that nothing is his fault. On the other end of the spectrum, it's simply unrealistic to say that everything is. The political power realities in California are what they are. We can acknowledge them, or go for Schwarzenegger's jugular ever ten minutes, insulting everyone out there that won't attack Schwarzenegger personally.
There is nothing you and I can do to change the fact that Schwarzenegger is our Governor. I do not understand what value you see in expressing hatred for the man constantly. And please, do us both a favor and don't deny it. Schwarzenegger has been generous to McClintock, helping him raise money. He doesn't hold grudges and I've seldom seen him offer up personal attacks. Frankly I can't remember seeing him do it once. In that regard, you could learn a lot of Schwarzenegger.
Arnold is a conservative! He will help Bush win in November!
Who has been saying that Schwarzenegger is a conservative? Oh my, you've really veared from reality here. I have never considered him to be a conservative. I don't know anyone who does. Although I've said that he is closer to a fiscal conservative than any other type of conservative, even on that it's a relative statement. Schwarzenegger is by no means a conservative in the true meaning of the term. Who doesn't know that? You are upset and trying to make some comments that others will pat you on the back for. You know what, some people will. I would rather say that you and I would probably agree on most issues as they relate to conservatism, but by your actions, you alienate me from discussing those issues in a productive manner. Instead I spend my time asking you and others to please stick to reality.
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/lying cult rant
I now that you think your comments address reality. I can tell you that from my perspective they don't. I know what is in my heart. I know how I stand on the issues. I know that your comments are wildly inaccurate, the way they depict the views you are attributing to me and others.
When it came to Bill Clinton, there was the intimation of criminality, deaths, organized crime, corruption, obstruction, perjury, witness tampering, clandestine operations against member of the public, treason, and on and on it goes. Dispising a worthless human being of that magnitude was nothing more than righteous indignation. It was justified. The lengths you folks go do in your public comments about Schwarzenegger is entirely different.
There are going to be times when I am going to be furious about his policiy decisions. That does not merit him the same treatment as Clinton. He is a political novice, perhaps even an airhead with tendencies toward the liberal side of the isle. That makes him ignorant, ill-advised and wrong. It does not make him a criminal.
I wish you would grow up. It would be more productive to talk about issues with you than defend a man against juvenile behavior.
