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Kerry's Cambodia Claims Scrutinized (On Drudge)
Foxnews.com ^ | August 10, 2004

Posted on 08/10/2004 9:31:59 AM PDT by cyncooper

WASHINGTON — Part of John Kerry's (search) strategy in his White House bid is to play up his military service in Vietnam, but a group of veterans is challenging the Democratic presidential nominee's story.

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In an Oct. 14, 1979, letter to the editor of the Boston Herald, Kerry wrote: "I remember spending Christmas Eve of 1968 five miles across the Cambodian borde being shot at by our South Vietnamese allies who were drunk and celebrating Christmas. The absurdity of almost being killed by our own allies in a country in which President Nixon claimed there were no American troops was very real."

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To: daviddennis
Wasn't one of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth one of his gunners who served in his boat? I could have sworn I remembered this.

See this transcript: Steve Gardner (gunner ON Kerry's boat) on Michael Savage's radio show, 8/6/2004:

transcript

61 posted on 08/11/2004 5:03:20 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (When it came to Intelligence, Kerry was absent)
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To: NonValueAdded
I can scan Kerry's 10/14/79 Apocalypse Now movie review, but I do not know how to post it. Do I need a webpage/server to host the file? Send me a private reply with instrucdtions how to do it.

BTW, from '69 - 70 I served with the First of the Ninth which is the helicopter unit spoofed in Apocalypse Now

62 posted on 08/11/2004 5:32:21 AM PDT by S.O.L.
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To: Monti Cello
Uh, no offense but my post was SARCASM.

I don't know how old - or young you are, but my 'blockquote' about 'Secret Agent' Kerry was from the 60's-70's TV show, Mission Impossible, starring Peter Graves (among others). I was mocking Kerry.

btw, only an idiot or a dem - oops, same thing, would believe Kerry was in Cambodia in '68.

Not that we didn't have re-con and other type missions in there, but they were all by SF (& CIA) and all HIGHLY secret at the time. 'We' were also in Laos too, both technically illegal, but hey it was a War and that's where 'charlie' was. In any case, KERRY wasn't there, period.

63 posted on 08/11/2004 5:45:44 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: cyncooper

But when presented with a copy of the Congressional Record and asked about Kerry's letter in the Boston Herald, the campaign said it would come up with an explanation.

Now that statement is funny. It shows the distain that this candidate has for the little people.

The Englsh had such an attitude about the colonists. When the private letters from Governor Hutchison found their way into the hands of Dr. Franklin and were published in America, the English were outraged that the colonists published them, disregarding the contents completely.

Thus we see the treatment of the swifties.


64 posted on 08/11/2004 5:46:22 AM PDT by ODDITHER
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To: L`enn
It seems some of you guys are taking my post series! C'mon I was mocking Kerry.

Hint - the 'blockquote' is from the 60's-70's TV show Mission Impossible, starring Peter Graves.

65 posted on 08/11/2004 5:55:09 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: kaehurowing
Ahhhhhhh, at least you saw I was being sarcastic. Some took my post series.

Oh, as to your question -- the "OTHER SIDE", as his little group was being funded by KGB & Chicom front orgs.

66 posted on 08/11/2004 6:04:24 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: cyncooper; daviddennis; Tacis; Steven W.; mewzilla; freddiedavis; Dustbunny; crv16; pepperhead; ...

Last night on Fox tv I heard Carl Cameron read from this 1979 letter to the editor of the Boston Herald.

It is more explicit than even some of his other renditions of his "Christmas in Cambodia" tale and of course contains more fodder he should be confronted with.

So we basically have three versions of "Christmas in Cambodia" to go on (someone needs to find music and lyrics to go with that title): The 1979 letter to the editor of the Boston Herald, the 1986 speech inserted into the Congressional Record, and wackiest of all the "Lucky Hat" reference as told to Laura Blumenfeld of the WaPo of 1/06/03.

The "Lucky Hat" version is the nuttiest by far as it has our hero escorting a CIA operative on a secret mission far into Cambodia. This thread is the first one to make mention of it, and were we discussing anyone else I would think it preposterous, but does this in fact kinda, sorta resemble the plot of a certain movie starring Martin Sheen and the late Marlon Brando? Now, I realize that at this stage of the game, accusing John Forbes Kerry of telling tall tales is like handing out speeding tickets at the Indy 500, but the thought that this man, this presidential aspirant, cribbed from the plot of Apocalypse Now in order to impress a reporter is unsettling at best.

And who is he, really?

A close associate hints: There's a secret compartment in Kerry's briefcase. He carries the black attaché everywhere. Asked about it on several occasions, Kerry brushed it aside. Finally, trapped in an interview, he exhaled and clicked open his case.

"Who told you?" he demanded as he reached inside. "My friends don't know about this."

The hat was a little mildewy. The green camouflage was fading, the seams fraying.

"My good luck hat," Kerry said, happy to see it. "Given to me by a CIA guy as we went in for a special mission in Cambodia."

Kerry put on the hat, pulling the brim over his forehead. His blue button-down shirt and tie clashed with the camouflage. He pointed his finger and raised his thumb, creating an imaginary gun. He looked silly, yet suddenly his campaign message was clear: Citizen-soldier. Linking patriotism to public service. It wasn't complex after all; it was Kerry.

He smiled and aimed his finger: "Pow."

Its too bad that actor/raconteur Spalding Grey (Swimming to Cambodia) is deceased, lord only knows what kind of hilarious one-man routine he could have put together from this material but to be honest guys, I don't know about you but I'm getting genuinely frightened here.

67 posted on 08/11/2004 7:26:27 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju
I don't know about you but I'm getting genuinely frightened here.

Really? I'm feeling mostly relief.

I think this is the end, my only friend, the end.

I think for all the talk about the bunny suit, it may be Kerry's Kambodia Kaper (aka Apocalypse Never) that ends up being his real "Dukakis-in-a-tank" moment.

68 posted on 08/11/2004 7:39:00 AM PDT by ScottFromSpokane (Re-elect President Bush: http://spokanegop.org/bush.html)
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To: cyncooper

69 posted on 08/11/2004 7:41:36 AM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: sinanju
The "Lucky Hat" version is the nuttiest by far as it has our hero escorting a CIA operative on a secret mission far into Cambodia.

That would be the CIA as portrayed in the movie "Volunteers".

70 posted on 08/11/2004 7:46:12 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: sinanju

Thanks for the reply and the ping.


71 posted on 08/11/2004 7:54:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchurian Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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To: cyncooper
Look it is the rare Cambodian Christmas Hamster, Moi al Kerri. It appeared only once in Cambodia on Christmas in 1968 while on a secret CIA mission.


72 posted on 08/11/2004 7:56:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchurian Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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To: Grampa Dave
bump!

73 posted on 08/11/2004 8:03:03 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP; S.O.L.

Meek can you help this gentleman to scan a great document to put on FR.

Please contact him by freepmail.


74 posted on 08/11/2004 8:18:28 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchurian Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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To: cyncooper
Yaaawn needs to start with an apology to President Richard Nixon, who had to resign for lying!! Then he can publically apologize to all the Veterans and finally to the country for misleading them about this!! How pathetic!

Pray for W and Out Troops

75 posted on 08/11/2004 8:21:58 AM PDT by bray (Yaaaawn Tax , Tax , Tax & Kerry wants your paycheck!)
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To: sinanju

The problem is that even Kerry doesn't know who he is, where he was, or where he's going.


76 posted on 08/11/2004 9:02:31 AM PDT by OldFriend (WAR IS THE REMEDY OUR ENEMIES HAVE CHOSEN)
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To: sinanju

I was in Cambodia last December as a tourist, so vote for me!


77 posted on 08/11/2004 12:07:14 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Pathetic Tax Protestors are a drain on society, lock them up!)
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To: Grampa Dave; S.O.L.
Thanks, Grampa. I sent him my email addy so he can send me the file.

When I get it and upload it, I'll post back to you here.


78 posted on 08/11/2004 12:08:19 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Grampa Dave; S.O.L.
Here it is, folks! The original file showed to be 2.0 MB.
So I had to take the file to my PhotoDeluxe software to fix it up and make it small. These are 60% of the original size dimensionally (H & W).

I got the 2.0 MB down to a total of appx. .349 MB here - 150.6KB and 198.0KB:


79 posted on 08/11/2004 2:29:33 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP; S.O.L.; backhoe; Peach; Ernest_at_the_Beach; IPWGOP

Great work, MeekoneGOP and S.O.L.!

S.O.L., this was out of the Boston Hearld, what was the date and the section it in.


80 posted on 08/11/2004 2:49:55 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Has the Franchurian Dork candidate, le Jacquestrap Kerri ever not lied to Americans!")
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