All of this stuff about Mr. Kerry and what he did and didn't do in Vietnam is very unseemly. Mind you, I am no fan of Mr. Kerry. What concerns me is that this sort of advertising(and recantations) is not good for President Bush. It is a sure loser of a propostition.
Those of us who like President Bush should know better.
The country will not buy it...and neither should we.
The president's record is more than sufficient to win the election.
How's that for hijinks?
4-More years fro President Bush!
You're right ... the country will not buy that Richard Nixon was president in 1986 ... because he WASN'T!
Take away that FACT from Kerry's machinations and there's clearly no basis for all of his positioning and posturing over the years hence, taking his speech on the Senate floor in 1986 as a prime example.
When you realize that is gone then it's quickly understandable the man is a complete phony and a fraud.
And we haven't even gotten to the actual circumstances and other facts of these matters which are brought forth by all of his fellow officers and commanders in the chain of command.
think about that - the American people are reasonable and they understand that to have literally hundreds of honorable & distinguished men aligned, under oath of affidavit, there is more to this than the average troll might yet perceive.
Truth is not the enemy.
What advertising are you referring to? Do you suggest that this is a campaign strategy by the RNC or what? Perhaps you don't believe that a group of vets could simply step forward to express their opinions because of their concerns about their country which they laid their lives on the line to defend. Who pays for this "advertising"?
If your assessment were correct, the Kerry camp wouldn't be going after TV stations threatening libel.
This one is beginning to stick, and they know it.
This isn't an affair like Gen Flowers, it's wholesale resume-padding at best and unpatriotic betrayal at worst. People don't like that.
Of course we could always go back to the bunny suit. That was pretty effective too.
What recantation are you talking about? The only "recanting" I know of is Elliott change from his 1996 position (that Kerry's Silver Star was not improvidently granted), to his current position (expressed in affidavits dated July 21 and August 6, 2004) that had he known the extent of Kerry's action was to shoot a single Viet Cong in the back, he would not have recommended the awarding of the Silver Star. He explains how he came to change his mind in that regard.
Yep. Go after Kerry's totally-unproductive 20 years in the Senate, especially his flip-flops on the Iraq War.
Vietnam is a loser.
Don't go wobbly now Rex!
Shame on you! Kerry's war record and the truth should come out. Kerry's character (or lack of any!) should come out now! Giving a man who could be the next leader of the free world and the world's only super power on free pass is insane and a total dereliction of one's duty as a patriotic American.
I don't understand that line of thought.
For one thing, Kerry has made his time in Vietnam an issue.
More importantly, we're fighting an extremely important war right now, and the democrat candidate for president has a history of betraying his country, and lying about his time in the military, for personal gain. As a voter, I WANT to know about the character, or lack thereof, of the major candidates. These swift boat veterans are doing their civic duty, and I'm proud of them.
Bravo Sierra!
It is very important, and I doubt many veterans would agree with your opinion.
Unseemly?
I suppose you could call the Truth unseemly.
For the record, one more time since the media wishes to create a myth, these SwiftBoat guys are not doing this at the behest of the Republican party or the Bush campaign. They wish them to stay out of the matter because it isn't G.W.'s affair. I agree with them.
This group consists of Republicans AND Democrats that have real concerns about Kerry being President given how he LIED then betrayed them in the war he cites as the reason he should be elected.
I am and will support these men that were betrayed over 30 years ago. This country turned their back on them once and I will not abandon their quest to air the truth.
My support for them has nothing to do with securing the election for G.W. If partisan gain was all I had an interest in I would want these guys silenced.
I want G.W. elected. I am very loyal to him but this is not about him. This is about overdue justice for the Vets of the Vietnam War. They WILL have their story heard.
You said: All of this stuff about Mr. Kerry and what he did and didn't do in Vietnam is very unseemly. Mind you, I am no fan of Mr. Kerry. What concerns me is that this sort of advertising(and recantations) is not good for President Bush.
When, as here, Kerry is running exclusively on his record of service in Vietnam, that record should be reviewed, and not simply accepted as true (especially when there are as many apparent discrepancies as there are). Of course, it should not be left to the campaigns to investigate these things. A fair media would have given at least half the attention to this issue that they gave to Bush's alleged AWOL status. Why the double standard here? Where was the outrage at claims of Kerry's surrogates about Bush's service? And, if the Vietnam service of Kerry is not a valid basis for electing him, where is the assessment by the media of his Senate record? I tire of this duplicity.
Too bad Mr. Kerry didn't see it your way.
He decided to stake his candidacy on what he claims he did. These men, over two hundred strong who served with him, have decided it is indeed unseemly and they are out to give their version.
Those of us who like President Bush should know better.
I know better than to suggest that men of honor and decency who went to Vietnam and now want to speak should just sit down and shut up. I won't do it.
BTW, why don't you post your proof of a recantation. Elliott signed a new affidavit, reaffirming his charge that Kerry is unfit to be president and swearing that the Boston Globe story was false.
There is zero evidence and no logic behind the assertion that "this...is not good for President Bush". Mixing apples and oranges and claiming these men should be silenced or George Bush will pay the price is the height of absurdity. And it's not gaining traction. Sorry.
The White House has nothing to do with this. People can either believe it or not. I find it just adds fuel to the fire that is consuming sKerry.
This goes to character and scruples. And it's being proved (albeit slowly) that Kerry doesn't have any of either.
And let's not forget that Kerry is the one who's basing his whole campaign and his qualification to be POTUS on his four short months in Vietnam. If all of it is fabricated bull-hockey, he has nothing left. He brought up his record, it needs to be examined.