Coming to your neighborhood soon? All that is necessary for evil to trumph, is for good men (and women) to do nothing.
To: TERMINATTOR
"Oshkosh police say they have since returned all firearms for which they had no warrants. Some media reports and individuals who cared enough to call say the Oshkosh police have "more or less" apologized to the abused victims."
Has anyone interviewed those whose weapons were taken to find out if they WERE returned? Is the Oshkosh PD going to pay for any damage it caused?
2 posted on
08/07/2004 9:42:02 AM PDT by
NRA1995
("Just call me a proud Republican goon!")
To: TERMINATTOR
It makes me wonder what those residents would do if this process were extended to neighborhood stabbings or hit-and-run crimes. Where does it end?
4 posted on
08/07/2004 9:44:28 AM PDT by
ElkGroveDan
(Santorum 2008)
To: TERMINATTOR
Law suits should fly over this. The officials that gave the order to confiscate guns should be fired - no reprimand, no slap on the wrist, just fired.
5 posted on
08/07/2004 9:45:41 AM PDT by
Mogollon
To: TERMINATTOR
One is hard pressed to go to work, come home and rectify all that is apparently wrong with Oshkosh.
Perhaps the residents of Oshkosk should sell and move far away, leaving a vacant and bankrupt Oshkosh, by gosh.
6 posted on
08/07/2004 9:47:24 AM PDT by
G.Mason
(A war mongering, red white and blue, military industrial complex, Al Qaeda incinerating American.)
To: TERMINATTOR
Those victimized residents also have a responsibility as citizens, as Americans. And they failed in their responsibility as seriously as the police did.That would seem to be true. It's strange that Oshkosh residents don't seem to be telling the story of what happened there.
7 posted on
08/07/2004 9:57:02 AM PDT by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
To: TERMINATTOR
Was there anyone that refused the search and demanded a warrant?
8 posted on
08/07/2004 10:03:18 AM PDT by
Mike1973
To: TERMINATTOR
America's future?
10 posted on
08/07/2004 10:07:26 AM PDT by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: TERMINATTOR
Illegimati non carborundum
19 posted on
08/07/2004 10:34:11 AM PDT by
bvw
To: TERMINATTOR
This story doesn't sound right. If it happened as described, why aren't there interviews with the victims? Where is the media coverage on this?
23 posted on
08/07/2004 11:08:44 AM PDT by
gitmo
(Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
To: TERMINATTOR
I suppose citizens could have refused entry by the cops, but we still have peaceful ways of addressing these issues. If armed cops bust into your house it would be foolish to violently confront them.
This past term the US Supreme Court affirmed the right of citizens to sue police who violate their constitutional rights. This is not a petty remedy for citizens.
Under this ruling citizens may go into court and strip cops of their sovereign immunity. They may then personally sue the cops for everything they own. Additionally, criminal charges may be filed against the cops, meaning fines and jail time. The citizens may also sue the municipality.
These cops are about to feel real sorry they did this.
25 posted on
08/07/2004 12:35:53 PM PDT by
sergeantdave
(Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
To: TERMINATTOR
It was a stroke of Satanic genius for the liberals to plan for this over forty years ago and begin their quiet infiltration of the public school system. THIS is the direct result of liberalism's agenda in the public schools. I know, I have fought it everyday for the last 15 years, in my classroom. We used to (as law abiding American gun owners) think that both the police and our military were barriers between us and a corrupt government that might turn against the people and the Constitution. No longer. Sure, older cops still believe in the right to bear arms, but they're retiring faster and faster. Now days, most all soldiers and cops are products of the public schools. They have no idea of the concept of "limited government" and individual liberties. That means, folks not only are we in trouble in the long term, but also more likely in the short term. If this is the attitude following a pretty routine crime, even against a cop, what will be their attitude following a major terror attack?
27 posted on
08/07/2004 1:27:38 PM PDT by
ExSoldier
(M1A: Any mission. Any conditions. Any foe. At any range.)
To: TERMINATTOR
When they kick in yer front door,
How ya gonna come?
Wif yer 'ands on yer 'ead,
Or th' trigger of a gun?
Ohhhhhhhh ohhh... The guns of Brixton.
-The Clash, Guns of Brixton--
To: TERMINATTOR
I did not drag it out and post it here before, but I can tell you from recent personal experience that questioning the legitimacy of ANY police order these days will get you maced, beaten, and and convicted of "Failure to heed the orders of an officer".
The officers will casually commit perjury to justify their actions, and the judge will allow their clearly invented testimony to be treated as fact.
Then you will be lucky to escape with only "Ten days - Suspended, on condition that...."!
The police state is already here, we just dare not say so out loud.
29 posted on
08/07/2004 2:03:14 PM PDT by
Richard-SIA
("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
To: TERMINATTOR
But don't you know, they're just doing it to ''keep us all safe and free''? whats wrong with you, Terminattor? are you a liberal who don't lick the boots of the papa govt and almighty cops?
:-D
Just kiddin. great article.
30 posted on
08/07/2004 2:08:45 PM PDT by
MindFire
To: All
Where was the ACLU on this?
34 posted on
08/07/2004 2:26:19 PM PDT by
KevinDavis
(Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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