Posted on 08/06/2004 1:56:51 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
The Navy has some serious explaining to do.
If this clown was such a *uckup then why in hell did they give him a Bronze Star and a Silver Star? Hellooooooo
Purple Hearts for scratchs on days there was no enemy contact? And Bronze & Silver Stars for doing what all of us who were in combat did every day ??? Hellooo again? Is anybody home????
This whole record of Kerry smells to high heaven!
Semper Fi,
Kelly
I agree. In the Army 3 hearts might get you out of the field, but I never saw anyone get a free pass home. Until the rules changed in '67 or '68, in the Army, they gave out Hearts by the crate load, after that you had to actually had to get wounded and recieve medical attention, if I remember correctly.
Anybody who went to Viet Nam with a video recorder and believes he was "born to run" for President scares me.
She's always been rabid, but was usually able to conceal it fairly well. Remember, 'pod, she was a top honcho in the Dukakis Debacle, er Campaign.
But the 'rats are getting desperate (just look at how Frenchy was attacking President Bush for not immediately jumping up and leaving the little kids on 9/11) and the cracks are beginning to show.
You know I asked the same thing. The reply I got from someone here was that he was a friend of the Kennedy's. And they couldn't get rid of him like that. Don't really buy it, but that is one school of thought.
I don't believe that's the case. He tried to avoid service by applying for a student deferral. When that application was denied, he enlisted. I'll try to find the thread that shows he was anti-war before he went in. There have been so many threads on him, it may take a while to find it.
Regarding the circumstances of his transfer stateside:
The officers who suggested his departure may not have shared their views and actions with all of their fellow officers. Another officer, not knowing what they had done, could have easily assumed that kerry's rapid departure was the result of his own initiative. Even if the others had suggested that he leave, he had to apply for the transfer himself. They couldn't do it for him.
You're assuming that he was a self-respecting naval officer. I've seen no indication that that is the case.
Googling the words "Kerry", "kennedy", and "yacht" turned up this link as the first hit:
He was photographed aboard the Kennedy yacht with JFK in the early 1960's. Political influence, big time.
Both can be true. "Don't throw me into that briar patch!"
I smelled the Kennedy's in this matter of privileged special treatment. As they say, F-up and then move-up. The Kennedy's have always been a stain on the office of the President like billy blythe. Bush/Cheney 2004
Kerry, whose prep-school friends say he has always loved all things Kennedy, was a full-time volunteer in Ted Kennedy's first Senate race the summer before he entered Yale, in 1962. "I was one of the headquarter brats hanging around making a nuisance of myself,'' he says. He briefly dated Jackie Kennedy's half-sister Janet Auchincloss that same summer, and even got to sail Narragansett Bay with JFK at the helm.
I read a Boston Globe article that says Kerry requested transfers for his men, to get them out of harm's way. One guy asserted that he wanted to stay, and Kerry imposed on him more directly.
Kerry did two tours. That is correct. Neither was of one year duration. A ship-bound "tour" was the first, his assignment on Swift boats was the second.
Elliott signed off on at least one citation (the Silver Star), and now has come saying that if the information is true, that Kerry chased one Viet Cong and dispatched him, had he (Elliott) been given that version of events when he was considering the citation, he (Elliott) would not have signed off. He has sworn this in an affidavit dated August 6, 2004.
I forgot which one of Kerry's superiors said it, but I heard this in an interview: It was MUTUAL!! Kerry wanted out of Vietnam and his leadership wanted to get rid of him!
(The previous address had insufficient bandwith and was constantly overloaded.)
This is an excellent site to Bookmark:
After several weeks of being counseled about his actions, he probably decided that he'd had enough (who are these middle-class nimrods, talking to ME like this!). He acquired his 3rd Purple Heart and finagled his departure. Sounds like those in the know were only too glad to see the arrogant little SOB leave.
In the tin-can Navy, we always referred to our deployments as cruises and never as tours. Out of respect, the term tour was reserved for the folks who were serving in-country. There was a world of difference between the two and we knew it.
Thank you for your service, sir. And for the correction in jargon.
Myself, out of high school in '73, lottery number of 55. Dithered between sign up for the Navy and "wait and see." "Wait and see" won, Nixon ended the draft, and I went to Valaraiso University's College of Engineering.
did he have a friend in teddy kennedy at that time??--if so, that is what protected his sorry ass
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