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Kerry campaign's quick response to Swift boat vets
Washington Times ^ | 8/5/2004 | Marie Horrigan

Posted on 08/05/2004 2:30:38 PM PDT by ArcLight

The campaign for Democratic Party presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts issued an exhaustively researched and extensively sourced 36-page refutation Thursday of allegations Kerry lied about events during his service in Vietnam, including how and why he received medals, and had fled the scene of a battle.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bandoflawyers; elections; kerry; swiftboatveterans; vietnam
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To: ArcLight

Kerry has nothing to fear but Truth itself!


22 posted on 08/05/2004 2:42:31 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (They are where you least expect. Look around and you'll see them too.)
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To: MplsSteve
"The campaign for Democratic Party presidential nominee Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts issued an exhaustively researched and extensively sourced 36-page refutation

Me thinks he doth protest too much. (Or not)

23 posted on 08/05/2004 2:42:56 PM PDT by Max7
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To: ArcLight

"and had fled the scene of a battle."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this is the first we've heard of Kerry fleeing a battle!

Perhaps the Kerry band of lawyers are going a bit 'deep' themselves?......


24 posted on 08/05/2004 2:42:59 PM PDT by spoiler2
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To: ArcLight

Someone mentioned on another thread that if Kerry or the DNC sues, the SBVs would have discovery rights (i.e. legal standing to request and receive Kerry's medical and service records). Can anyone confirm or deny that this would be the case?


25 posted on 08/05/2004 2:44:12 PM PDT by HenryLeeII (sultan88, R.I.P.)
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To: ArcLight

Very interesting set of circumstances. If the lawyers feel that Kerry is being defamed, go ahead and sue the individuals, take it to court, and have everyone involved testify as to what they remember. It will be a great spectacle for TV and the kind of publicity that could easily sink someone's aspirations. Who do you think this will affect the most? Bush or Kerry.


26 posted on 08/05/2004 2:45:29 PM PDT by 99tango
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To: ArcLight

27 posted on 08/05/2004 2:45:52 PM PDT by End_Clintonism_Now (MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL CLINTON!)
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To: ArcLight

On Hannity, a station manager for WTMJ in Wisconsin said they got the fax-memo-threat, but they are running the ad anyway.


28 posted on 08/05/2004 2:47:46 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Signed affidavits to the UPI -- the swift vets are organized, capable, and ready for this battle... and recognize that the MSM is clearly hostile to them.

I am beginning to feel that the RATS have nominated a compromised candidate who lied to them.


29 posted on 08/05/2004 2:50:28 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: ArcLight

I don't see anything about it on john john's scamsite.

Earlier today, I couldn't find anything on the swiftboat vets' tv ads, on any of the alphabet media, not even on Fox News. The last, unfortunatley doesn't surprise me, their (newscorp) president & coo peter chernin just endorsed the flying monkey from taxachussets. I also heard that CNBC is altering Dennis Miller's show to be less confrontational politically, i.e., Dennis is being censored for his republican views.
Now there is one story and one story only on the swiftvets making it's way into our living rooms, that is second string kerry vp john mccain calling the swiftvets a bunch of bums & liars (dishonerable and dishonest to be specific)for daring to exercise their 1st amendment rights.
This story actually broke back in May, but AP has been waiting for someone sleazy enough to present it in a manner they deemed worth repeating.


31 posted on 08/05/2004 2:54:30 PM PDT by 4woodenboats (McCain is very much on Kerry's ticket...to HELL!!)
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To: MplsSteve
The Kerry campaign sure saw this ad coming for quite a while if they had long enough to prepare a 36-page rebuttal.

It's not like the "Swift Vets for Truth" made any secret of their organization. Also, given its makeup, how hard would it be for Kerry to drop a single mole into their organization, to sabotage it (by inventing false charges against him) and to gather intel about what they would claim against Kerry and any weaknesses in those claims? If Kerry couldn't accomplish that much, I don't think he'd be capable of running our armed forces and intelligence services.

32 posted on 08/05/2004 2:55:22 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: mwl1

I think you and I both know, that's true.


33 posted on 08/05/2004 2:55:27 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (They are where you least expect. Look around and you'll see them too.)
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To: ArcLight

The Swift Boat Vets hit a nerve, my man, they struck a nerve.


34 posted on 08/05/2004 2:57:37 PM PDT by sport
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To: deport
"Far from being a grass-roots organization of veterans, this group is a front for the right-wing Texas Republicans to try and take away one of John Kerry's political strengths -- his service to the country in Vietnam," the Kerry campaign document said.

Open his service file!

and while your at it

Release the tape!

crickets

Oh well, worth a shot!

35 posted on 08/05/2004 2:58:02 PM PDT by MamaTexan (Our government is NOT a 'democracy')
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To: ArcLight

Thurlow appeared on MSNBC with Rassman to discuss the ad this afternoon - as usual, the network gave Rassman the last word - his whole defense was not much more than "this happened thirty-five years ago, why wasn't it questioned then, it's dirty politics to question it now" - Thurlow was unfortunately non-asserive and didn't jump in to tell Rassman that his "rescue" was by the usual standards probably such a common and unremarkable event that no one would have thought it would have resulted in a medal for anyone, let alone Kerry, who apparently showed up late on the scene and, according to Thurlow, wasn't in any danger at all himself.......


36 posted on 08/05/2004 2:58:14 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: ArcLight
"Needless to say, all of these are false, and they have been contradicted by official Navy documents, eyewitness accounts, independent investigations and, in some cases, by the very same people who are now making these claims."

So Kerry's releasing his military records??

37 posted on 08/05/2004 2:59:04 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: ArcLight

On Hannity, the WTMJ station manager said he called the atty's listed on the memo and asked them if they were threatening to sue.

They, of course, denied they were and said the fax-memo was 'just a request.'

So, it sound like they are trying a bluff in hopes of intimidating stations. WTMJ called their bluff. Wonder how many other stations will?


38 posted on 08/05/2004 2:59:38 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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To: HenryLeeII
In a civil suit, both sides have the right to discovery: primarily requests for production of documents, written interrogatories (questions) and depositions of individuals or entities (as represented by "person most knowledgeable"), which involve sworn testimony in answer to questions by lawyers recorded by a court reporter. (Non-parties may be subpoenaed for documents and/or depositions.) Discovery disputes, e.g., about which documents requested or questioned may be irrelevant or "overly burdensome," are generally handled at a hearing. All the judges I've ever heard of are made extremely unhappy by discovery disputes.

A complicating point here is that the Kerry/DNC lawyers have written to broadcasters warning them not to run the ad, not to the SBV for producing it; apparently, if they sue, they will sue broadcasters who run the ad. A few posters on other threads have pointed out that the liberal media will now have a plausible excuse to refuse the ad. Luckily, there are at least some conservative outlets that will run it, so these will be outlets that will be sued.

39 posted on 08/05/2004 3:00:16 PM PDT by maryz
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To: deport
"two other individual contributors with Republican Party ties, John O'Neill"

Mr. O'Neill, I recollect, took over Kerry's boat when he ran went home.

40 posted on 08/05/2004 3:00:59 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mullahs swinging from lamp posts.....)
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