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EMS Plan 1 Chicago, Suspicious Package
Chicago Police/Fire | 08/03/2004 | RHR

Posted on 08/03/2004 8:33:31 PM PDT by Right_Handed_Writer

Listening to Chicago scanner. EMS plan 1 at 31st and Indiana near Chicago downtown. A suspicious suitcase was thrown from a moving vehicle around 10:00 CST. Package was not able to be x-rayed due to lining inside os suitcase. Bomb techs opened the suitcase finding a liter sized container with liquid, hoses and wires. Evacuations are underway.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: bombthreat; suspicioussuitcase
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To: Velveeta

Thank you--Now if someone would please explain the drifting boat thing I'd feel much more comfortable......


61 posted on 08/03/2004 8:55:05 PM PDT by sissyjane (You're either with us or against us.)
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To: U S Army EOD

Agreed, and I hope to be proven wrong, as well, but if it has tubes/hoses that kind of points to moving a chemical frow one place (storage) to another place (mixing) hope it turns out to be a Thermos and a siphon hose.


62 posted on 08/03/2004 8:55:05 PM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (john F'n kerry reminds me of a horse, I'm just not sure which end.)
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To: CindyDawg

Nothing mentioned on local tv news about the boat.

In fact, they're doing sports update at the moment...


63 posted on 08/03/2004 8:55:09 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Jewels1091

If dangerous we will probably never know :')


64 posted on 08/03/2004 8:55:27 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg

Maybe the men in that car came up from Mexico in that bunch of Middle Easterners who 'got away' and melted into the American countryside. We have to think outside the box, not just about truck bombs or airplanes that smack into tall buildings, but stuff like this, WMD's in suitcases or on barges drifting in the river.


65 posted on 08/03/2004 8:55:53 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Right_Handed_Writer

Phew. Thanks for the information!


66 posted on 08/03/2004 8:55:58 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Right_Handed_Writer; All

Did anyone ever find out what those 2 kids (middle eastern) threw out the window that was in a jar somewhere in one of the south eastern states?. I think they were in a rental truck and a trooper saw them throw it out the window.


67 posted on 08/03/2004 8:56:10 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Right_Handed_Writer

Again, an ALL CLEAR has been issued. Investigation continues.


68 posted on 08/03/2004 8:56:15 PM PDT by Right_Handed_Writer
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To: thegreatbeast
"Why am I thinking test run?"

For the same reason I am, and I don't usually spring into tinfoil hat mode. The lead shielded suitcase has me antsy. The fact that I was about to totter off to bed when I saw this thread probably isn't helping.

69 posted on 08/03/2004 8:56:32 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: lightman

The mission of the CFD, in a Hazardous Materials incident, is to isolate, contain and stabalize hazardous materials until such time as the proper officials require the owner of the product to properly dispose of the material.
Hazardous materials are defined as: any explosive, flammable, oxidizer, poison, etiologic agent, radioactive, corrosive or other substance or material, in a quantity or form that may pose an unreasonable risk to health, safety and the environment.

Response
Level 1 = Is the minimum initial response to any suspected or potential Hazardous Materials incident. This level is primarily for investigative activities and/or to mitigate incidents involving small quantities or low potential materials. A Level 1 HazMat response consists of: one battalion chief, one engine, one truck, one ambulance and a HIT task force of: one squad and the Hazardous Materials Squad 5-1-1.

Level 2 = Is a confirmed incident involving a moderate or high potential and/or a large quantity of material; or an incident requiring protective clothing above Level D (Structural firefighting clothes); or an incident requiring the need to initiate an evacuation. A Level 2 HazMat response consists of the following units: one Deputy District Chief, one HIT Task Force Team engine, one HIT Task Force Team truck, one Safety Officer, one EMS Field Officer, one Air Mask Support Vehicle and one command van.

Level 3 = Level 3 HazMat incidents are rarely called. This would be an extensive incident which may require additional manpower, more supplies than are normally carried by the HIT Task Force, and an expanded evacuation area.


from the unofficial CFD website


70 posted on 08/03/2004 8:56:48 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (When in doubt, shoot it out)
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To: Right_Handed_Writer

They could move the suitcase but how could they determine what the liquid was ,this soon?


71 posted on 08/03/2004 8:57:46 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: myprecious

CLTV made mention of it. I hadn't watched network news, so I don't know if they mentioned it.


72 posted on 08/03/2004 8:58:04 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Right_Handed_Writer
Again, an ALL CLEAR has been issued. Investigation continues.

Dang! I'm still in the shower!
73 posted on 08/03/2004 8:58:18 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: sissyjane

A lot of times if there is a river nearby police/harbor control will "cordon" of that area with a vessel. they tend to hold position by shooting up current and drifting back down to stay in position.

Don't have my chi-town map, but sounded like this might be on one of the road bordering the Chicago river. So it would make sense.


74 posted on 08/03/2004 8:59:32 PM PDT by reed13k
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"BTW, I wonder if drug dealers/couriers might have a reason to use suitcases that can't be x-rayed?"

I would imagine...but they'd have a bit of trouble getting on a plane.

75 posted on 08/03/2004 8:59:40 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: RandallFlagg

lol!


76 posted on 08/03/2004 9:00:21 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: BurbankKarl

Thank you!

My county only has a generic "hazmat incident" response rolling one specialty truck, staffed by vollies.


77 posted on 08/03/2004 9:00:44 PM PDT by lightman
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To: cake_crumb

I had to go in on a hospital one time in New York state that had a bomb threat. They evacuated the entire hospital except for an operation they had in progress. One thing that stuck in my mind is seeing these two old women in their 90's laying on strechers in about 18" of snow. If they had caught the people who did it, I would have had no trouble shooting them. I am flat serious about that. I would have done it.


78 posted on 08/03/2004 9:01:22 PM PDT by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.)
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To: sissyjane

The drifting boat could be just that. Storms are pretty bad here at the moment, boat could have gotten loose.


79 posted on 08/03/2004 9:02:51 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: BurbankKarl

Thank you


80 posted on 08/03/2004 9:03:11 PM PDT by sissyjane (You're either with us or against us.)
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