[Byron_the_Aussie]

...I think liberals and conservatives share many ends, but disagree on the means. We both want people to be happy, healthy, fed, sheltered, safe, etc...

Puh-leez.

The liberals want people poor, crime-ridden, welfare-dependent, and resentful. That way, they'll vote Democrat.

[TheDon]

I was referring to the more idealistic liberals. You know, the sheep, the useful idiots, etc. I would not place the current leadership of the Demorat party in that category!