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To: judicial meanz; HipShot
I forgot the goals. Certainly to disrupt the elections with the idea of effecting "regime change." That means the trigger has to be pulled within the next 90 days. That won't be the only pull of the trigger, it'll keep on being pulled until they accomplish as much of their objectives as possible. IF they get what they want in the election, there may be a pause in operations to see how friendly Kerry will prove to be in extracting us from Iraq and the Middle East.

Another goal is to topple this nation from the top of the world stage of power. I think that many of our so called "allies" are hoping for this as well, and are probably providing support to the terrorists in a variety of ways. They're probably hoping we'll be so decimated that in order to maintain any semblance of order we'll be forced to grovel on our knees and beg for help from the UN who will gladly send "Peace Keepers." If that happens, I think we're in deep poo poo.

3,077 posted on 08/07/2004 4:13:40 PM PDT by ExSoldier (M1A: Any mission. Any conditions. Any foe. At any range.)
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To: ExSoldier

Bingo


I think you hit the nail on the head.


3,078 posted on 08/07/2004 4:15:16 PM PDT by judicial meanz
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To: ExSoldier

I believe accomplishing Goal #1 accomplishes goal #2. This is what this whole thing is about. they almost had us that is why they were so desperate to get Gore in. Gore didn't get in so they had to revert to Plan B which is make battle in and terrorize America. I believe OK City had middle eastern ties but I don't believe McVeigh was a so called "right wing wacko." Despite the Clintonistas making him appear as one. The whole was to smear the right and patriots, to get our guns etc. Clinton was taking down the road straight into the mouth of the UN.


3,093 posted on 08/07/2004 4:59:57 PM PDT by mindspy
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To: ExSoldier
"They're probably hoping we'll be so decimated that in order to maintain any semblance of order we'll be forced to grovel on our knees and beg for help from the UN who will gladly send "Peace Keepers." If that happens, I think we're in deep poo poo."

If we are so decimated, we won't be the only ones...the UN won't be able to get it's act together to get a toehold here before Putin comes to the rescue.
3,122 posted on 08/07/2004 5:34:40 PM PDT by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: ExSoldier; judicial meanz

Ok, let's "follow the money". What specifically are we standing in the way of currently? Whose plans/goals are we interfering with?

North Korea --> South Korea
China --> Taiwan
Venezuela --> Domestic Government Overthrow/Columbia
Iran --> ME en toto (theocratic), Death of Israel
Syria --> Death of Israel
Lebanon --> Death of Israel
AQ --> Pakistan, Saudi Arabia
Ivan --> US, Nato (Yes, the missiles are still aimed)

Mix and match at will. There is surely cooperation somewhere.


3,175 posted on 08/07/2004 8:44:46 PM PDT by HipShot (EOM couldn't cut the head off a beer with a chainsaw)
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