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To: robertpaulsen
robertpaulsen said: "He said nothing about federal infringement. Why did you bring that up?"

Because the US Constitution is the supreme law of the land and I made the case that this would be easier than a Kalifornia amendment.

We have spoken about "incorporation" of the First Amendment in the past. Was that a bad idea? Would incorporation of the Second Amendment be a bad idea?

478 posted on 08/03/2004 2:48:25 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: William Tell
"We have spoken about "incorporation" of the First Amendment in the past. Was that a bad idea?

No, it was a horrible idea. First, if the Founding Fathers wanted a central Bill of Rights, they would have written it that way. Second, our first amendment is now a one-size-fits-all whatever-the-USSC-says-it-is amendment. Third, the first amendment specifically says, in plain English, Congress shall make no law ..., not "Congress and the states shall make no law ...". How would you like your second amendment twisted this way?

"Would incorporation of the Second Amendment be a bad idea?"

Equally horrible and for the same reasons. Repeal the 14th!

481 posted on 08/03/2004 3:10:39 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: William Tell
"We have spoken about "incorporation" of the First Amendment in the past. Was that a bad idea?

No, it was a horrible idea. First, if the Founding Fathers wanted a central Bill of Rights, they would have written it that way. Second, our first amendment is now a one-size-fits-all whatever-the-USSC-says-it-is amendment. Third, the first amendment specifically says, in plain English, Congress shall make no law ..., not "Congress and the states shall make no law ...". How would you like your second amendment twisted this way?

"Would incorporation of the Second Amendment be a bad idea?"

Equally horrible and for the same reasons. Repeal the 14th!

482 posted on 08/03/2004 3:10:47 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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