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I'm not sure how Clinton made the military second class as you say. It was, after all, the Clinton army that fought in Afghanistan, and the beginning stages of Iraq (when things were going well for the troops.) It takes about 2 and a half years for a president to put his individual stamp on our armed forces because of the budget cycles. Also, how are we no longer a bastion of freedom and liberty? You are free to state whatever you like in this forum, and I have the liberty to disagree.

Plus what Obama was pointing out was that those are not our greatest qualities, our greatest quality is that fact that we have unalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That we have a country founded on the tenets of equality and opportunity. It is those qualities that allow us to have the strongest economy, and give the military the strength that it needs. Our troops are not fighting for some king on high, but for the ideal of a better tomorrow for their kids and other future generations.

It would behoove you to realize that military might alone can accomplish little, just ask the Greeks, Romans, Spanish, British, French. It is the fact that we have freedoms worth fighting for that make us as formidable and great as we are. And if we lose those freedoms then we lose everything.

I find your response somewhat out of step with the conservative agenda of Free Republic. You defend Bill Clinton and you lend credence to Barak Obama. Sounds like you're on the wrong political website.

As to your specific points.

>>>I'm not sure how Clinton made the military second class as you say.

I never said that. You did. What I implied was something different. After eight long years of der schlickmeister as CIC, funding for the US military was drastically undercut, leaving US defenses vulnerable. Just compare Bush41`s last budget in 1993 with Clinton's last budget in 2001. Clinton reduced defense spending 20.7% of budget outlays and a whopping 31.8% of GDP. Under Clinton we spent the lowest amounts on defense since 1940! We don't need a Kerry in the White House or Obama in the Senate to further undermine the US military.

The facts are crystal clear. Without a strong military to defend our way of life, there would be NO America. Period!

So, Barak Obama may have impressed you with his rhetorical flair for the obvious. To me, he came across as a liberal hack, trying to hide his true political agenda.

It's the US military that has protected and defended our freedom for the last 228 years. Again. Without a strong US military, America would cease to exist.

To correct you, it was NOT "Clinton's army" that fought in Afghanistan, it is the AMERICAN ARMY that fights wars.

It is absolutely ridiculous that you would use a DNC talking point that was bandied about seven months ago by their media butt boys. That talking point justifiably went into the ash heap of truly stupid thoughts. Especially because your subhuman hero Clinton is on record as "loathing the military."

Don't you write a "blog" on that insipid little website MoveOn.org?