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To: mvpel
What's sending our jobs to Mexico is the pile of regulations and government control on US businesses

Bunk. What's sending our jobs overseas is the license to do it granted by Nafta along with the greed of those that can do it. Greed and license. Ya'll just blame it on regulation. When it comes down to it, if you strip all the regulation and the companies stopped paying 5% tax and payed none, they'd still outsource because they can pay a minor fraction of the wages they pay here and exploit workers overseas in ways Americans would never stand for.

My job is non-union labor - as are most of the jobs going overseas. The tax code is screwed up. But, Companies have gotten tax break after tax break to stay in local communities and still bailed. You guys are so stuck on your talking points that you can't deal with the truth. You don't know what it is. These people out here on the street do.

60 posted on 07/23/2004 10:35:13 AM PDT by Havoc (.)
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To: Havoc

"What's sending our jobs overseas is the license to do it granted by Nafta along with the greed of those that can do it. Greed and license. Ya'll just blame it on regulation. When it comes down to it, if you strip all the regulation and the companies stopped paying 5% tax and payed none, they'd still outsource because they can pay a minor fraction of the wages they pay here and exploit workers overseas in ways Americans would never stand for.

My job is non-union labor - as are most of the jobs going overseas. The tax code is screwed up. But, Companies have gotten tax break after tax break to stay in local communities and still bailed. You guys are so stuck on your talking points that you can't deal with the truth. You don't know what it is. These people out here on the street do."

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What about your talking points? What good does it do to keep a job here if the cost of doing so raises the price of the goods so high that you STILL can't afford it? Look at Japan where a canteloupe costs $40. But at least they're not outsourcing...right?

Who exactly is paying only 5% in taxes?

Enough with the Buchananite/Big Labor hooey. The people who work in manufacturing jobs should not take the attitude that the company exists to keep them employed. They exist to make money, the very same reason the employees go to work at a given company -- TO MAKE MONEY. Are the employees greedy too?

Assuming so many mfg jobs are headed overseas, perhaps those who work in mfg should start making preparations for a new line of work in the service sector. Set aside a little dough each week and go to night school. I did. You have to roll with the punches instead of standing completely still and waiting for the gov't to pass a law to keep us in our dead-end jobs. Adapt/improvise/overcome -- do NOT whine...


85 posted on 07/23/2004 11:33:50 AM PDT by Zhangliqun (War IS the answer -- when the alternative is even worse...)
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To: Havoc

To compete with Mexican labor (if it comes at 10% of the American labor cost) one has to be at least 10 times more productive to keep earning American wages. It is not easy, but possible.


145 posted on 07/24/2004 12:49:53 AM PDT by GSlob
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