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Civil War by Other Means,AMERICA'S DOVISH NORTH AND HAWKISH SOUTH
New America Foundation ^ | September 30, 1999 | Michael Lind

Posted on 07/22/2004 12:25:03 PM PDT by robowombat

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1 posted on 07/22/2004 12:25:05 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: Modernman
Lind always provides some food for thought. A lot to disagree with in this, but I like it when someone, even a apostate from the Right, takes a stab at a "theory of everything." Too many specialists today, not enough people possess the breadth of knowledge necessary for Big Think. Worth printing and reading.
2 posted on 07/22/2004 12:35:32 PM PDT by BroncosFan (NJ 2005: Schundler for Governor)
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To: robowombat

Thanks, this loooks like a definite must-read, but I'll have to bookmark it for later.


3 posted on 07/22/2004 12:36:04 PM PDT by Renaldo (God, guns and guts keep us safe from hippie nuts)
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To: robowombat

Hmmm, I was born in CT and have lived in MA most of my life so I guess I'm a pacifist, right?

Well I have the guns and the DD214 that suggest otherwise.


4 posted on 07/22/2004 12:37:11 PM PDT by Gefreiter ("Ignorance is king. Many would not prosper by its abdication.")
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To: Gefreiter

CT Yankee non pacifist bump.


5 posted on 07/22/2004 12:42:16 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: robowombat

That is the best article I have read in days. Thank you.


6 posted on 07/22/2004 12:50:54 PM PDT by brothers4thID (We are going to take from you to provide for the common good)
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To: stainlessbanner
You will probably find this of interest.
7 posted on 07/22/2004 12:56:21 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
describing soldiers as "wild beasts" who rejoice "in blood."

Sounds like Kerry discussing American soldiers in Vietnam.

8 posted on 07/22/2004 1:07:19 PM PDT by stainlessbanner (quis custodiet ipsos custodies)
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To: robowombat

Well I can only say one thing.





DON"T PISS ME OFF.
}:-[


9 posted on 07/22/2004 1:09:40 PM PDT by Mark in the Old South
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To: robowombat

I was riveted until the author pegged Dallas a conservative stronghold. Now I figure that if he'll lie about Dallas, he'll lie about other things.


10 posted on 07/22/2004 1:10:57 PM PDT by Melas
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To: robowombat

Lind is a brilliant cultural observer.

A culture built on violent male prowess is self perpetuating in that women choose men who will be attractive to their friends and families. On the southern football field and the inner city basketball court, alpha males show off their prowess for the women. Sports is an incredibly important part of southern and black life.

Touching on the subject of basketball, blacks brought to it the flashy moves that impress chicks. The slam dunk. The three point shot. The behind the back dribble. Northern whites don't emphasize flashy chick magnet moves so hockey is boring to watch.


11 posted on 07/22/2004 1:15:23 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: robowombat

"In the long run, demography may favor the southern coalition."

I have Fischer's book titled "Albion's Seed" where he describes the "folkways" as he sees them.

If 9/11/2001 doesn't make some Americans willing to fight, nothing will.


12 posted on 07/22/2004 1:17:07 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: robowombat

Sorry, but this Yankee ain't no dove in the war on terror.


13 posted on 07/22/2004 1:23:57 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: TNMountainMan

bookmark


14 posted on 07/22/2004 1:28:56 PM PDT by TNMountainMan ("I see that everyone who is for abortion has already been born." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: stainlessbanner

I guess I missed that quote but I thought it was an interesting analysis of American politics from a unique perspective.


15 posted on 07/22/2004 1:32:09 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Melas

He said the same thing about Atlanta. I've just never seen Atlanta as conservative.


16 posted on 07/22/2004 1:42:16 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: robowombat

One thing Lind sems to leave out is the loss of the basis of the "Calvinist" "messianic" "new Jerusalem" mindset in the north. These roots are largely forgotten in "Greater New England" having been replaced by secular humanism and relativism. In contrast, The Judeo-Christian tradition with its Biblical absolutes of right and wrong is much stronger in the south. People who believe in absolutes of right and wrong are much more likely to put their lives on the line to fight for what's right and against what's wrong.


17 posted on 07/22/2004 2:23:32 PM PDT by JG52blackman
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To: robowombat

^4L8R


18 posted on 07/22/2004 2:57:37 PM PDT by sanchmo
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To: robowombat
Couldn't finish, already numb from four hours of mandatory classes:
But,
I've a problem with a 'greater new england linguistic group' that stretches to Seattle....their politics might coincide but it's not all that hard to spot differences in the accent and attitude.
And,
The 'exchange of constituencies' didn't come about in the seventies ["By the early 1970s, the Greater New England Protestant-black-Jewish alliance had captured the national Democratic Party..."]. That alliance, including urban / labor unions and rural / subsidized farmers, was FDR's ace in the hole.
It was hardly caused by 'Goldwater's right-wing movement' or damaged by Kennedy's dive into Indo China. [Although the image might have been enhanced by the left demonizing LBJ for not reversing JFK#1's path]
19 posted on 07/22/2004 3:51:54 PM PDT by norton
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To: robowombat

Good article. Bump.


20 posted on 07/22/2004 5:06:19 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (#26,303, never suspended, over 187 threads posted.)
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