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Is al Qaeda Preparing a Nuclear Hit?
Global Analysis ^ | July 19, 2004 | JR Nyquist

Posted on 07/19/2004 7:30:11 PM PDT by thinkahead

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To: thinkahead
Anyone got any info on this site???

Utterly worthless.

They're a bunch of amateurs playing pretend terror analyst. Have demonstrated repeatedly they don't have the foggiest idea what they are talking about. They serve the "terror scare hobbyist" by providing them with the desired scare-a-day.

81 posted on 07/19/2004 9:17:53 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: conshack
I, for one, won't get any pleasure out of saying those famous words "don't say I didn't tell you so". can honestly say that I predicted a catastrophe like 9/11 as early as 5 years before it happened.

The immense pleasure people take in saying "I told you so" can easily twist over time to basically rooting for bad stuff you predict to happen.

82 posted on 07/19/2004 9:18:52 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: BearWash

The deterrent policy stated has always been our policy of nuclear deterrence...although some liberal may have changed it recently to "Allow oneself to be totally destroyed before shooting back." [I think they did]

Nothing new here, nothing shocking.

MAD.


83 posted on 07/19/2004 9:22:35 PM PDT by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: thinkahead
The basis of our nuclear defense for half a century has been “deterrence.” Unless you can pinpoint your enemy, unless you can locate him on a map, you cannot send a missile against him.

This writer is clueless about our enemy. The deterrence target is clearly defined.

Primary Target: Mecca, Saudi Arabia

Secondary Target: Medina, Saudi Arabia

84 posted on 07/19/2004 9:23:01 PM PDT by XHogPilot
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To: George W. Bush
We will melt Mecca and Medina. We will dust Tehran clean. We will give the Temple Mount back to Israel after demolishing the cult shrine that currently defaces that ancient site.

But what about Hollywood?

85 posted on 07/19/2004 9:23:22 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: PokeyJoe
"By my own hand, if need be."

Call me, I want to be your driver and spotter.

86 posted on 07/19/2004 9:23:39 PM PDT by blam
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To: HardStarboard

Have all the renegage states with functioning reactors (such as North Korea) suddenly "gone legit"?

Is there anything to prevent them from providing these materials to terrorists?

I didn't think so.


87 posted on 07/19/2004 9:26:11 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: zipper
Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.

Well the Constitution has already largely been discarded in favor of judicial fiat, illegal legislation, ever more invasive useless laws on thing like riding ATVs and smoking and completely ignoring real threats like Latino invasion and gangs.

As much as I love the Constitution our current broken system only calls it up as a sort of talisman, so military rule would not be a huge change in that regard.

88 posted on 07/19/2004 9:30:18 PM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Dano50

yes thats great.

you should be quiet now, the grown-ups are talking. shhh...


89 posted on 07/19/2004 9:31:04 PM PDT by sweneop
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To: Indie
All of this has been well-documented.

Yup. And, like crockwork, the "usual suspects" are in-thread, playing their FUD games, preventing that not only has NONE of it been documented, but, insisting that it is categorically impossible.

If pressed, they will of course roll out a series of links that are off-topic, and prove nothing, and don't even support their lies -- but, they will keep promulgating their lies anyway -- like crockwork -- and, many will listen to the lies, and accept them, because a comforting lie will be more "listenable" to some folks than an uncomfortable truth.

And, if pressed really hard, they will call in their reinforcements, try to initiate a series of flamewars -- if necessary, settling for a series of single-sided "flame wars", so that the can also stir the shiite w/the mod squad, so that they can score a goal.

"Scoring a goal" in one of these threads means either getting it kicked to "the backroom", where no one will see the uncomfortable facts, or, getting the thread deleted in its entirety.

If they're really lucky, they'll get some longtime posters suspended too.

It really is amazing to watch 'em in action. It's almost as if a squad of seminar posters was in the hire of some outfit that had a vested interest in "steering opinion" or "forming consensus."

That there are such operations conducted on the Internet, and, that this forum, being about as high-profile as they come, would seem to be as likely a target (for such operations) as any, means nothing. I'm sure it's all just a big coincidence. A serial coincidence, that occurs like crockwork.

90 posted on 07/19/2004 9:33:44 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: sweneop

Oh I'm quite sure that there would be a great hue and cry by interests exterior to this nation...

That would be the whole point.

Something sorta like having nukes smuggled into your country I would imagine.


91 posted on 07/19/2004 9:38:39 PM PDT by Dano50
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To: Dano50
I doubt that they will shoot their whole wad at once. They will go for maximum chaos. Blow one… make impossible demands. Blow another... make more demands.

Interesting conjecture, except you forget a few details.

First, "maximum chaos" would happen if they did set them all off at once. Second, if they set them all off at once, they don't have to worry about stepped-up policing efforts discovering any of their other weapons before they can set them off.

And, even apart from those two factors, there's the biggie: coordinated multiple/simultaneous attacks are AlQ's trademarked MO. It's what they do.

92 posted on 07/19/2004 9:40:14 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Scythian
If they had them they would immediately use them on Israel.

Why's that? After all, Israel is "the little satan", and we on the other hand are "the great satan."

Do your homework!

93 posted on 07/19/2004 9:42:08 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe

You offer what?¿ to support that opinion?


94 posted on 07/19/2004 9:43:17 PM PDT by Dano50
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To: exhaustedmomma
If the White House suspected that al Qaeda was ready with nuclear weapons on U.S. soil would the president warn the public?

And if they did, exactly what are we suppose to do?

Well, if it was real, and if one could, I'd get hell out of the major population centers..Just a wild guess though....

95 posted on 07/19/2004 9:47:49 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf ( failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: thinkahead
The country is not convinced that such measures are absolutely necessary.

Now I wonder why that is? Could it be because the liberal rats have been calling into question the war on terror day in and day out saying the President lied about it all? Could the fact that W is called the terrorist, and in fact is accused in some circles of sending the planes into the buildings himself have something to do with this?

The left has blood on their hands already, and if this happens, they will be the aiders and abettors of it.

96 posted on 07/19/2004 9:47:56 PM PDT by ladyinred (What if the hokey pokey IS what it's all about? Become a monthly donor and find out!!!)
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To: exhaustedmomma
I think that's the point. And my point is, even if they did... and I know they are giving us all these warnings. But, I mean if they came and out said, "RED ALERT! Nuke attack is iminent. We don't know exactly who, where, how or what to look for. But it is for sure." Can you imagine. And... if it happens, I am doing all I can do. I am looking. I am watching. I am reading and trying to keep udated. Heck, I even bought some sort of hand held ham that I can operate in an emergancy like that. (Not that I know what to do with it.) And I know there are rumors of "tent cities" ready to set up if "it" should happen. [I will not go.] This is too mind boggling. I liked it better when I was a kid and city hall had nuke shelters. ;)

The night of the weak knees

The night of the weak knees

Christopher Hitchens
Wednesday December 5, 2001
The Guardian

Four weekends ago, I really did receive two Friday-night telephone calls from well-positioned Washingtonians. "Leave now," they told me. "There's a tactical nuke on the loose, and it's headed for DC." One of these callers was in a position to know, and the other was in a position where he was actually paid to know. Calls were being placed to an immediate circle of friends to which, in theory, I was flattered to belong. Those who were calling were also leaving - while not informing the rest of the citizens. Why, then, did I resolve to stay? It wasn't just British pluck, strong as that naturally is. I thought, first, that it was unlikely that al-Qaida, if it had the bomb, would have conducted a petty dress rehearsal with United Airlines. I thought, second, that the detonation of a "use it or lose it" freelance nuke could not be predicted for any given weekend. And I thought, third, that I would feel a colossal cretin if I fled and then came slithering back on Monday morning (especially if the nuclear holocaust was timed for Monday's rush hour after all). In the end, I did take the family on a pre-arranged trip to Gettysburg, leaving late and returning early.

Officially, nobody now remembers this night of the weak knees. It rated a brief and embarrassed mention in Hugh Sidey's Time column, and that was it. But I shall not forget how some of those in supposed authority decided that the end had come, and made it a point to keep it to themselves and their immediate friends, perhaps to stop the crowding of the roads. That's how it will be on the day of Armageddon, and that's why the citizen should always plan to outlive the state, rather than the other way round.


97 posted on 07/19/2004 9:53:40 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Scythian
If they had them they would immediately use them on Israel.

Oh come on. They seem pretty confident, or believe Israel is just a puppet of the United States....They don't want the puppet, they want the puppeteer.....911 kind of indicated that....

98 posted on 07/19/2004 9:54:06 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf ( failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Dano50

*LOL!*

You're a funny guy!


99 posted on 07/19/2004 10:00:20 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

just a wild guess, eh. (Smart-alec me thinks;) Got every cow-trail out of Houston mapped. Like it would do any good. Can you imagine the chaos?


100 posted on 07/19/2004 10:08:31 PM PDT by exhaustedmomma (REtired: raising grandkids (pray for us))
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