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Elderly Cubans left to starve as drought brings cut in rations
The Sunday Times ^ | July 18, 2004 | Matthew Campbell

Posted on 07/17/2004 4:21:59 PM PDT by MadIvan

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To: MadIvan

Why the heck can't they feed themselves? Cuba is warm and gets plenty of rain; most crops should grow like weeds there. They are surrounded by an ocean teeming with fish.

Oh, yeah; it's the communism thing. No incentive to produce, and if you let them out in a fishing boat they won't come back!


41 posted on 07/17/2004 8:07:47 PM PDT by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: MadIvan

How much do you want to bet that Castro's family and his troops have a surplus of food and other things.


42 posted on 07/17/2004 8:14:17 PM PDT by fella
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To: Happygal

That's right. Americans have to first go to Canada or someplace that has travel connections To Cuba.


43 posted on 07/17/2004 8:18:18 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: Guillermo
"Cubans would revolt if several thousand Americans descended on Havana."

That's so naive.

The true travel restrictions are imposed by Castro; what makes you think that the man who does not allow American television, radio, or access to the Internet for the Island's inhabitants, would just sinmply allow thousands of Americans unrestricted access to the Island?

44 posted on 07/17/2004 8:20:54 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Guillermo
"There are several old time, powerful, well intentioned Cubans in Miami that Bush wants to suck up to."

You're starting to read like DU.

"Several"?

MOST of the people down here approve of the restrictions.

Who imposes the harshest travel restrictions on its citizens...Cuba, or the U.S.?

45 posted on 07/17/2004 8:23:44 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Guillermo
"Cuba is the ONLY country on earth that the US Government has restricted travel too."

Why don't you inform yourself before making such absolutely erroneous statements?

This web page is set up with the restrictions and warnings to Americans in traveling around the world. The following 7 countries NO American can travel to or from unless they have a rarely granted permit.
Cuba.
Iran.
Iraq.
Libya.
North Korea.
Serbia.
Sudan.

Source


46 posted on 07/17/2004 8:28:54 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

There are only "several" who Bush listens to.

I'm not too sure "most" Miami Cubans approve of the new restrictions.

Obviously Cuba imposes harsher restrictions. After all, they're a police state.


47 posted on 07/17/2004 8:29:16 PM PDT by Guillermo (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad)
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To: Guillermo
"I'm not too sure "most" Miami Cubans approve of the new restrictions."

Well, I am sure.

48 posted on 07/17/2004 8:30:19 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Yeah, I'm not defending the Castro regime.

I was just there. These people are ready to revolt. They just need a little push, and to see that Americans aren't teh big bad boogy men Castro tells them we are.


49 posted on 07/17/2004 8:31:14 PM PDT by Guillermo (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad)
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To: Guillermo
"There are only "several" who Bush listens to."

So, what you are saying here is than in an election year, in a key State, with a close race, Bush would listen to a few hardliners, and risk pissing off the many voters?

Yeah, right...

50 posted on 07/17/2004 8:32:05 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Americans ARE allowed to travel to each of those countries, except for Cuba.

Source: The US Department of State. Just look at each country page on their website. It will tell you what the travel requirements are.


51 posted on 07/17/2004 8:32:48 PM PDT by Guillermo (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad)
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To: Guillermo
"Yeah, I'm not defending the Castro regime. I was just there."

You may not be defending it, but you're supporting it.

52 posted on 07/17/2004 8:33:28 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

I believe that's what he is doing.

I know one of those hardliners who pushed Bush to impose the new restrictions, and now regrets it because he knows it's bad, counter-productive policy.


53 posted on 07/17/2004 8:34:00 PM PDT by Guillermo (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad)
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To: Guillermo

You don't read very well...do you?

I am an American, and the restrictions imposed on my ability to travel to Iran are more severe than the ones imposed on me to travel to Cuba.


54 posted on 07/17/2004 8:34:54 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

No, I wasn't supporting it.

Tourist dollars are causing a lot of corruption in the regime.

The more, the better.


55 posted on 07/17/2004 8:35:08 PM PDT by Guillermo (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad)
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To: Guillermo
"I know one of those hardliners..."

So, your knowledge of what the many think is based on the opinion of the one?

56 posted on 07/17/2004 8:35:43 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

Why dso you have to be such an asshole?

Can't you post without being so confrontational?

I get my info from the State Department, and according to the State Department, I am legally allowed to tracel to Iran and all those other countries, except for Cuba.


57 posted on 07/17/2004 8:36:16 PM PDT by Guillermo (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad)
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To: Guillermo

Tourist dollars are turning Cuban women into prostitutes BECAUSE of the regime.


58 posted on 07/17/2004 8:36:58 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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To: Luis Gonzalez

No, beause the policies don't make any sense, and most Cubans know that.


59 posted on 07/17/2004 8:37:01 PM PDT by Guillermo (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad)
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To: Guillermo

I may be confrontational, but at least I am not vulgar.

The information I just posted came from a site discussing the State Department travel restrictions on US citizens.


60 posted on 07/17/2004 8:38:20 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez (Sin Patria, pero sin amo)
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