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Get ready for the African revolution, says Mbeki
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Posted on 07/11/2004 5:48:51 AM PDT by Ironfocus

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To: Ironfocus
Mbeki is not stupid, but he is a Communist. All this talk of renewal is blowing smoke. You are right, except there already millions dying today.

Programmed starvation has been the communist trademark ever since Lenin's land reform programs of the 1920s. Why should this be anything different?

The worst of it is that there will be corporate globalists and UN bureaucrats cheering them on. See "Lenin."

41 posted on 07/11/2004 8:28:42 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly gutless.)
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To: Ironfocus
"It is our responsibility, acting together with all other patriotic forces in Africa and the African Diaspora, to ensure that we mobilise the masses of the people to act as their own liberators."

As was noted previously, phases like 'patriotic forces' and 'masses of the people' can only point toward some kind of dictatorship of the proletariet. And it sounds like he is thinking about one large 'People's Republic of Africa'.

Also, 'mobilise the masses of the people to act as their own liberators' can only mean 'create a police state and take all valuable property away from those who have it now'.

It's not entirely clear if he thinks this unity and mobilization can be done by the organizations he mentions or whether he is considering unifying Africa by force...And people think Africa is in bad shape now.

42 posted on 07/11/2004 8:38:14 AM PDT by MrNatural (..".You want the truth?!"...)
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To: Ironfocus

This is the prologue to intensified demands for worldwide reparations payments to Africa, probably through UN agencies and these pan-African syndicates.

Expect a bill for several trillion dollars to come due shortly.


43 posted on 07/11/2004 8:40:15 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Ironfocus

Mbeki is insane and has been slowly slipping into insanity over the past ten years. ANything he spouts should be considers the ranting of a lunatic.


44 posted on 07/11/2004 8:42:07 AM PDT by Stag
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To: correctthought

> No, they need property rights and free trade. The rest will come.

Will that ever come to be? Is it "culturally possible"?

I know my ancestors from Europe knew that item x was someone else's and didn't seek to obtain it by force or fraud. This was just part of the worldview.

Is it part of the African worldview?

If yes, they have a hope. If not, they're SOL.


45 posted on 07/11/2004 10:22:46 AM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: Ironfocus

And Mbeki is going to do his part to help blacks... by backing Robert Mugabe?


46 posted on 07/11/2004 10:29:52 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: JZoback
You'd lose. Anybody who could read Hayek, Friedman and Locke and not accept it didn't understand it and isn't that smart to begin with. For years I wondered why leftists belive what they do. I now can state categorically that I understand why they believe what they do.

They're stupid.

47 posted on 07/11/2004 1:22:00 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: Republic If You Can Keep It

Virtually impossible, I should think. They would still be fighting.


48 posted on 07/11/2004 4:38:34 PM PDT by Ironfocus (You can read this, thank a teacher, it's in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

"This is the prologue to intensified demands for worldwide reparations payments to Africa, probably through UN agencies and these pan-African syndicates.

Expect a bill for several trillion dollars to come due shortly."

Respecting property rights cuts both ways...


49 posted on 07/11/2004 4:53:01 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog

People don't care when it comes to Africans. Even when blacks who had their property taken under the Groups Areas Act, there were some who said it shouldn't be given back.


50 posted on 07/11/2004 4:55:59 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Ironfocus

Mbeki sounds like he has a touch of syphillitic dementia.


51 posted on 07/11/2004 4:56:52 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Ironfocus
Eventually, Africa will rise up and overthrow the tyranny that has held it back for fifty years...socialism.

The supreme irony is in Africa's falling for socialism as liberation from colonialism, convinced by the europpean and particularly the french intellectuals to throw off one set of chains for another...

52 posted on 07/11/2004 5:00:21 PM PDT by chilepepper (The map is not the territory -- Alfred Korzybski)
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To: cyborg

Hey, there you are. The rest of the African leaders are also getting fed up with him proclaiming things in the name of Africa, as if he is the saviour of Africa. He is getting marginalized along with the other scumbags on his lot(Mugabe, Nujoma). He sure talks a great game.


53 posted on 07/11/2004 5:02:27 PM PDT by Ironfocus (You can read this, thank a teacher, it's in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: chilepepper

Good point. But a difficult task as long as you have the Mugabes around. Let's hope for the next generations.


54 posted on 07/11/2004 5:04:24 PM PDT by Ironfocus (You can read this, thank a teacher, it's in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: Ironfocus

He's living up to his Hitler aspirations. He spouts verbal gangrene. Cut him off before he drags down Africa with him. There are very few African nations that are problem free. To the North, there are the muslim hordes and to the south the AIDS hordes mostly created by Mbeki and others' blind ignorance about the disease.

I hope that South Africa is still in good shape for the World Soccer Cup in 2010.


55 posted on 07/11/2004 5:05:47 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: cyborg

All of the problems will be hidden by the lefty press, regardless of how it turns out.


56 posted on 07/11/2004 5:09:23 PM PDT by Ironfocus (You can read this, thank a teacher, it's in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: Ironfocus

Mbeki thinks he knows the future. He might! If Kerry wins, then the UN becomes the new world order. Through the UN the wealth of the USofA will be transfered to causes in Africa. Bush has already done some of this with our AIDS money to Africa. If you want to see the future of the USofA, with Democraps in control, look to the Davis administration in California.


57 posted on 07/11/2004 5:22:19 PM PDT by Blake#1
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To: Blake#1

I fear for that. The money finds its way to the pockets of dictators, and the whole evil cycle will be repeated. We will see more speeches like this from Mbeki, and nothing will change for the people in Africa.


58 posted on 07/11/2004 5:29:15 PM PDT by Ironfocus (You can read this, thank a teacher, it's in English, thank a soldier.)
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To: cyborg

Yes. That's what I meant. Posters here can go on and on about the need for African countries to respect white farmers' property rights in Zimbabwe and Namibia, but ignore all the land grabs in the 20th century that removed productive black farmers (or merchants, or journalists, etc) from their homes to reward supporters of a corrupt regime.


59 posted on 07/11/2004 7:39:22 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog

Well not looking at both sides is intellectually dishonest.


60 posted on 07/11/2004 7:43:03 PM PDT by cyborg
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