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Mugabe forces more whites out of Zimbabwe
The Daily Telegraph ^ | July 10, 2004 | Peta Thornycroft

Posted on 07/09/2004 4:48:00 PM PDT by MadIvan

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To: cyborg
And listen to this: her daughter became an Israeli Army officer. They never spoke after the war.

She lived a long life in Germany. Her daughter is, as far as I know, remains in Israel.

41 posted on 07/09/2004 7:57:49 PM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy

Wow!


42 posted on 07/09/2004 7:59:46 PM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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To: MadIvan
Mugabe has singlehandedly destroyed the entire economy of his country to stay in power. Generations of white farmers and professional people had helped build that country. Now in just a few short years it has all be destroyed and not only have the whites suffered but what about all the blacks who have suffered also? With such an exodus of talent, both black and white, that country is doomed for years to come just like most of the other countries on the continent.
Amazing that the continent of Africa so rich in minerals and potential is such a basket case today with AIDS running rampant and almost no economic activity to speak of.
Even mighty South Africa has gone down the tubes and it really had the strongest economy of all the countries.
Mandela and his group really did a number there didn't they?
Here we are trying to establish democracy in the middle east and Africa which should have been able to make the transition to independent rule ended up evolving , with few exceptions, into a collection of dictatorships squandering so much of the riches they have.
43 posted on 07/09/2004 8:00:36 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: MadIvan

I actually mentioned this to a democrap I know not too long ago. His reply was that the whites deserve it.
I asked him what he thought about the fact that blacks in the land are getting attacked as well...he had no answer.

Mugabe is a modern day Hitler...and the UN does not seem to care.


44 posted on 07/09/2004 8:30:42 PM PDT by ArmyBratproud
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To: MadIvan
The International Monetary Fund has granted Zimbabwe a temporary reprieve from expulsion, giving it six months to prove it can turn around its economy.

Is this a joke ? The UN oil for food scandal is bad, but this IMF ruling has the smell of rotten fish.

45 posted on 07/09/2004 10:26:37 PM PDT by staytrue
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I would gladly take these people into this country.

I am guessing that you meant to say that "I would gladly take these WHITE ONLY people into this country."

And that is where the problem lies. Once you let the whites come, the black zimbabweans will also want to come for the same reasons the whites come. Now if you are in charge, how do you justify admitting the whites and keeping the anti mugabe blacks out ? And it is for this reason, that the hands of the US govt. are tied in this matter.

46 posted on 07/09/2004 10:32:28 PM PDT by staytrue
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I hope that's not what CB meant, but either way Rhodesian farmers are courted by countries like New Zealand and Australia because they're farmers by trade and commercial farming is pretty hot right now. Another thing is that not many Rhodesians come here anymore, choosing places like Canada and New Zealand,etc. and more are staying in Africa going to places like Zambia and now Mozambique. Here in NY, there are some black Zimbabweans and I met one Afrikaner who thought I was South African. The blacks with an education leave in droves because there aren't any opportunities. Ask any white or black African what the immigration experience is like coming to the US. It's hell.


47 posted on 07/09/2004 10:44:45 PM PDT by cyborg (the NYT is slipping down the hypotenuse of relevancy)
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I think you can make a case for letting the white zimbabweans into the US and not the blacks by saying that the blacks can just play "kiss Mugabe's rear" and do ok, while the whites do not have that option.

However, politically in the US, you simply can not let the whites in and keep the blacks out.


48 posted on 07/09/2004 11:17:06 PM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue

Not what I meant at all. You know what they say about the word "assume" don't you? Problem is, the black Zimbabweans don't exactly have the same problems as the readily identifiable white folks. I often wonder where the world outrage is. Surely if this was a group of white folks victimizing blacks, we would have marches and vigils and the world would be up in arms as they should be. But for some reason, the world is silent on this one.


49 posted on 07/10/2004 4:54:50 AM PDT by CurlyBill (We don't need a Gigolo and an Ambulance Chaser overseeing our Treasury!)
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You might be confusing Zimbabwe with South Africa... while South Africa's twisted new government gives preferential treatment to blacks, Mugabe is a tyrant just like Saddam who oppresses everyone, black or white... many blacks get just as harsh treatment as whites.


50 posted on 07/10/2004 5:02:15 AM PDT by Nataku X (You hear all the time, "Be more like Jesus." But have you ever heard, "Be more like Muhammed"?)
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My guess is that mugabe oppresses blacks and whites, but my guess is that the blacks have a choice to crossover and join mugabe and his thugs (not an appealing choice, but a still a choice) while the whites don't have this choice.

My other point is that it would be politically impossible for the US to admit the whites and not the anti mugabe blacks.


51 posted on 07/10/2004 7:18:17 AM PDT by staytrue
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To: staytrue

Agree.... I would take them both, but the black population is far more safe than the white population any way you cut it.


52 posted on 07/10/2004 7:51:12 AM PDT by CurlyBill (We don't need a Gigolo and an Ambulance Chaser overseeing our Treasury!)
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To: Nakatu X

No confusion here at all. While I agree with your premise, there's no denying the fact that white people have been singled out for rape, murder, and the taking of land. When it was the other way around, there was outrage around the world (as there should be) .... but there is no such outrage right now. Double-standard? You bet. You are correct in your description of Mugabe as a tyrant... but I would go further. The guy is a murderer and a thug. The sooner he is taken out, the better everyone will be ... black and white.


53 posted on 07/10/2004 7:56:20 AM PDT by CurlyBill (We don't need a Gigolo and an Ambulance Chaser overseeing our Treasury!)
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To: Navy Patriot
Are we in now? Where is the UN? Kofi Annan? Is the US or UK responsible for this mess? Is it possible for the US or UK to fix every screw up on the planet? Yada Yada Yada...

I was not speaking of the US in particular, but in was speaking more generally. The "we are the world" types that pushed for black rule have pushed on the world millions of deaths and misery, with civil wars, tribal feuds and just plain crime. Sort of like what happened to South-East Asia after the Demoncrats reneged on our promise of providing air support.

My comment was about the results caused by the actions of the feel good types.

54 posted on 07/12/2004 10:27:12 AM PDT by D Rider
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