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President touts immigration plan to Hispanic group
Daily Sentinel ^ | 7/8/2004 | T.A. Badger

Posted on 07/08/2004 3:58:29 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

SAN ANTONIO - President Bush told the nation's largest Hispanic rights group Thursday that America should make a place, albeit a temporary one, for a huge number of immigrants now working illegally in the country.

In a breif address via satellite from Washington, D.C., Bush also praised the fast-growing Hispanic population as a fertile ground for the creation of small businesses that are helping to fuel the U.S. economy.

"Our economy is stronger and our society is better off because Hispanic businesses are thriving and creating jobs across America," he told delegates to the League of United Latin American Citizens' annual convention.

John Kerry, the expected Democratic nominee for president, is scheduled to address LULAC on Saturday morning.

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Bush touted his tax cuts to Thursday's audience, saying they have helped Hispanic businesses and the rest of the economy.

With a population of nearly 40 million, Hispanics are the nation's largest minority group.

The research group HispanTelligence predicts that by 2010 the number of Hispanic-owned enterprises will grow from about 2 million to 3.2 million, and that their combined revenue will jump 70 percent to more than $450 billion.

But at the other end of the economy are Hispanics working in the United States illegally, and for them Bush said he will urge Congress to approve a temporary-worker program that would allow them to fill jobs unwanted by Americans.

"I know this proposal would be good for our economy," Bush said. "It will bring millions of hard-working people out of the shadows of American life. ...America is the nation of the open door, and it must stay that way.

Hector Flores, LULAC's national president, said afterward that he's glad the president is thinking about immigration, but said his plan doesn't go far enough.

"We need a fair and just immigration law," said Flores, who supports "earned legalization" for those undocumented workers--particularly those from Latin America--who have been in the country many years.

"They are no different than other immigrant groups coming to America through Ellis Island," Flores said, referring to past waves of U.S. workers from abroard. "I'm not advocating an amnesty (for all illegal immigrants), but I don't think a temporary guest-worker program is the answer, either.

Bush, who pleased the LULAC crowd by peppering his speech with a little Spanish, has led the Republican Party's efforts to gain stature among Hispanic voters, who have traditionally cast their ballots for Democrats.

He got 35 percent of the Hispanic vote in the 2000 presidential election, well up from the 21 percent received by GOP nominee Bob Dole in 1996.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailysentinel.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bush43; guestworker; hispanics; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationplan; lulac; presidentbush
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1 posted on 07/08/2004 3:58:29 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..

ping


2 posted on 07/08/2004 4:01:13 PM PDT by gubamyster
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Isn't it just great how out of touch Bush and others are with what the American people want? They could give a damn.LET'S THROUGH THE BORDERS WIDE OPEN!


3 posted on 07/08/2004 4:36:53 PM PDT by novacation
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Civil War II my fat white arse - America's next big internal conflict will be between the hispanics and the muslims, in about 30 years.


4 posted on 07/08/2004 4:52:03 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (Socialist America - diseased and dysfunctional.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

"President touts immigration plan to Hispanic group"

Whenever Bush talks of an achievement, he's 'touting'. A dictionary (Merriam-Webster)defines 'tout' as 'loudly or extravagantly publicizing'. The word has a negative connotation and is never used when describing a Democrat-Kerry never 'touts' his war record. Spin in sheep's clothing is still spin.


5 posted on 07/08/2004 4:52:48 PM PDT by Spok
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
yadda, yadda, yadda,...bla, bla, bla...
Bottom line: This is where W and I stand on different sides of the street.

My grandparents were immigrants and they had to jump through hoops just like everyone else, including the legal immigrants from South and Central America, to become American citizens!
Now these illegal immigrants from south of the border are getting preferential treatment just because they are from next door, they're here now and W doesn't have the cojones to enforce the immigration laws on the books and deport them back to where they came from!
RR tried this amnesty BS in the eighties and it didn't work then and it won't work now!

Well guess what W...
I got two words for you and the illegal Hispanics, Latinos are whatever the hell they want to be called...and it ain't Happy Birthday!

Get in line, amigos, and wait like the rest of us did or stick it where the sun don't shine!!!

Comprendo?
Bueno...

PS If anyone doesn't think illegal immigration doesn't cost Americans a bundle in taxes and jobs, I have the stats to prove you wrong!!!
6 posted on 07/08/2004 5:12:06 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
I truly believe there is something sinister afoot. I believe our politicians have surrendered this country to a type of hemishperic government which will be Canada, America, Mexico, Latin and South America. I believe we are doing this in part to compete with the European Union.

I believe the Supreme Court has already surrendered American law and our Constitution to a global point of view. The recent rulings they have made could just as easily been made in a European Union court room.

That said, why the rush to import massive numbers of illegals for the American workers to have to take care of, virtually from the cradle to the grave?

I think the answer is, once the middle-class is driven into poverty by paying the bills for millions of illegals, and through massive immigration no longer has the power of the vote, our politicians then will be able to direct the installation of some kind of demi-god tyrant ruler over our hemisphere.

7 posted on 07/08/2004 5:12:16 PM PDT by swampfox98 (We are at war! We have been at war since 9/11. How smart do you have to be to understand this?)
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To: kellynla
PS If anyone doesn't think illegal immigration doesn't cost Americans a bundle in taxes and jobs, I have the stats to prove you wrong!!!

I have no doubt you're right. The question is what to do about it. Round up the 10 million-plus here, ship them back & close the borders? I'm cetain it wouldn't work and it would be a huge mistake to try -- we'd lose the Hispanic vote for generations if not for ever.

We could try to "crackdown" on businesses that hire illegals. Again, I doubt it would work. Some unpopular businesses might take a hit but those whose success is based on political connections would thrive and continue to hire illegals, and frankly those are the businesses I'd like to see go under.

Also, you'd have the more serious entreprenuers take their capital & go offshore. If you think outsourcing is a problem now . . .

I like Bush's plan. Those who are here illegally can petition for residency by paying a small fine. As I understand it, they don't jump the line for citizenship.

And of course, once here legally, they pay taxes, businesses have to give the SS and the minimum wage which means some of the advantages they have over the native born disappear.

Also, we can now start keeping track of them, which I don't think is possible under any other scenario.

8 posted on 07/08/2004 5:32:01 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: kellynla

I fully agree with your sentiments and I also am just plain sick of these people coming in here and destroying neighborhoods whereever they go and not to mention the increase of crime in the area.... PATROL THE BORDERS!


9 posted on 07/08/2004 5:44:06 PM PDT by Die_Hard Conservative Lady (I have left this blank for a reason....)
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To: kellynla

Post them stats! (If you get a chance)


10 posted on 07/08/2004 6:14:27 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Let them eat amnesty)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

More Bush administration pandering to illegal aliens.


11 posted on 07/08/2004 6:17:39 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

"President Bush told the nation's largest Hispanic rights group Thursday that America should make a place, albeit a temporary one, for a huge number of immigrants now working illegally in the country."

Sounds good, how about Crawford, Texas?


12 posted on 07/08/2004 6:19:58 PM PDT by cavan
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Bush, who pleased the LULAC crowd by peppering his speech with a little Spanish

Too bad he can't manage to pepper his speech with a little coherent English.

13 posted on 07/08/2004 6:54:12 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Islamic Immigration is the West's Suicide)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak

Been a long day here, so I am about to call it a night but here are some costs:

Mass Immigration Cost American Taxpayers $69 Billion Net and 2 Million Jobs in 1997


Study by Dr. Donald Huddle

Reports Legal Immigration of over 1 Million Per Year Accounts for over 62% of Costs
State Costs to Taxpayers are Also Soaring (1996 Net Costs % up from 1992):

California: $28 billion up 35%

New York: $14 billion up 29%

Texas: $7 billion up 37%

Florida: $6 billion up 77%

The first study of the net cost of immigration to American taxpayers in 1997 conducted by Dr. Donald Huddle, Professor Emeritus of Economics at Rice University, found that:

The nearly 26 million legal and illegal immigrants settling in the United States since 1970 cost taxpayers a net $69 billion in 1997 alone, in excess of taxes those immigrants paid. This represents a cost of $260 in additional taxes paid by each U.S. resident or $1,030 in additional taxes paid by each family of four. This cost is a substantial increase over the net immigration costs of $65 billion ins 1996, $51 billion ins 1994, $44 billion in 1993, and $43 billion in 1992.

Over 62% of the net national cost of immigration in 1996, $40.6 billion, was attributable to legal and legalized (amnesty) immigrants. Illegal immigration generates about 38%, $24 billion of the total net cost. Legal immigration levels are over one million per year, and rising.

During 1996, approximately 2.3 million predominantly low-skill American workers were displaced from their jobs due to the continued heavy influx of immigrant workers since 1970. Taxpayers paid more than $15.2 billion in public assistance for those displaced workers in 1996, including Medicaid, Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC), unemployment compensation, and food stamps.

A net deficit of $8.5 billion dollars to the Social Security system in 1996 is attributable to the economic impact of the foreign-born population. Continued mass immigration threatens the solvency of the Social Security system.

Net cumulative costs for the 1998-2007 decade are projected to reach $932 billion, an average of $93.2 billion per year, even with recent changes in welfare and immigration policies and a prosperous economy, if current mass immigration trends are allowed to continue.

Breakdown for 1997 Costs of Legal Immigration
Public Schools (Primary, Secondary, Higher, etc) $22.5 billion

Bilingual Education, ESOL, ESL Education $ 3.3 billion

Medicaid $12.8 billion

AFDC (for legal and illegal immigrant's offspring) $ 2.4 billion

Social Security $24.8 billion

Supplemental Security Income $ 2.9 billion

Housing Assistance $ 2.6 billion

Criminal Justice $ 2.6 billion

Jobs Lost by Americans $10.8 billion

Other Programs $51.4 billion

1997 Total Costs for LEGAL Immigration: $136 billion

Add 1997 total costs for illegal immigration of $41 billion and subtract an estimated $108 billion in taxes paid by all immigrants (legal and illegal) in 1997 to obtain the overall net figure of $69 billion charged to you, and other American taxpayers.

Other key facts regarding immigration are:

1.) If current immigration trends continue, the current U.S. population of

274 million will nearly double to over 500,000,000 by 2050. (The U.S. was 135 million at the end of WWII.)

2.) Harvard Professor George Borjas demonstrated that mass immigration costs American workers $133 billion per year in wage depression and job loss.

3.) The prestigious National Research Council found at the state and local levels (which bear most of the burden for K-12 education) the net fiscal burden of the average immigrant-headed household (i.e., after subtracting state and local taxes the household paid) was:

$1,484 per immigrant-headed household in New Jersey (in the 1989-1990 fiscal year); and $3,463 in California (in 1994-1995)(p. 276-277)

http://carryingcapacity.org/huddlenr.html


14 posted on 07/08/2004 7:08:20 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: kellynla
That Hubble study is pretty old. We've discussed it several times over the last couple years.

I'd like to see a follow-up study that determines whether his projection of an average cost of illegal immigration of $93 billion dollars per year, to the U.S. Taxpayers, was high or low.

In any case, $9.3 billion would be too much.

15 posted on 07/08/2004 7:39:38 PM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: swampfox98

>>our politicians then will be able to direct the installation of some kind of demi-god tyrant ruler over our hemisphere<<

Yes, the UN.


16 posted on 07/08/2004 8:06:56 PM PDT by B4Ranch (We're going to take things away from you (guns) on behalf of the common good." Hillary 6/29/2004)
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To: 4Freedom

Numbers USA has some good stats and info.

http://www.numbersusa.com


17 posted on 07/08/2004 8:41:47 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1/5 1st Mar Div. Nam 69&70 Semper Fi http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak; B4Ranch; swampfox98; 4Freedom
Here are some more of his comments, from another article; don't you love how he says "this system is not fair and it's not right" ;-) LOL!!

Bush Touts Stalled Immigration Proposals
Thu Jul 8, 6:26 PM ET
By SCOTT LINDLAW, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON -

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040708/ap_on_el_pr/bush_hispanics&e=1&ncid

"But in a speech Thursday to the League of United Latin American Citizens annual convention in San Antonio, Bush reiterated his backing for his sweeping immigration proposals.

"Our country must confront this basic fact: Jobs being generated in our growing economy are not being filled by American citizens, and these jobs represent an opportunity for workers who come from abroad, who want to put money on the table for their children," Bush said in remarks delivered by satellite to the group's annual convention. "Yet, current law says to those workers, you must live in a massive, undocumented economy," Bush said. "And so we've got people in America working hard who live in fear and who are often exploited, and this system isn't fair and it's not right."

"The reason I made this proposal is because it's humane," the president said. "It would bring millions of hardworking people out of the shadows of American life. This proposal reflects the interest and best values of America, and Congress should pass it into law."

"We will keep working to make this nation a welcoming place for Hispanic people, a land of opportunity para todos (for all) who live here in America," he said.

18 posted on 07/09/2004 11:33:32 AM PDT by MindFire
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"We need a fair and just immigration law," said Flores

We do too, Flo.

We do too.

19 posted on 07/09/2004 11:37:20 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Don't know if you were pinged, but this will singe your feathers....


20 posted on 07/09/2004 11:42:19 AM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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