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Hollings Says Edwards, “Doesn’t Have Nearly the Experience”
SCGOP News | 7/6/04 | SCGOP

Posted on 07/06/2004 12:56:02 PM PDT by NotchJohnson

Kerry & Edwards: Liberals Through & Through

Hollings Says Edwards, “Doesn’t Have Nearly the Experience”

(Columbia) – Democratic Presidential Nominee John Kerry picked first term United States Senator from North Carolina John Edwards this morning to be his Vice Presidential choice. And while some Democrats might like to think that Edwards can help Kerry by wooing Southern voters with a smooth Southern drawl, the reality is that neither Edwards nor Kerry are in tune with South Carolina voters. In fact, the only real difference between the two senators is their accents.

"John Edwards has the right accent, but the wrong record to win in the South," said Katon Dawson, Chairman of the South Carolina Republican Party. "Both Kerry and Edwards are out of touch with mainstream South Carolina voters on the important issues like taxes, partial birth abortion, the war on terror and national security.”

According to the National Journal, "Kerry and Edwards aren't all that different, at least not when it comes to how they voted on key issues before the Senate last year. The results of the vote ratings show that Kerry was the most liberal senator in 2003, with a composite liberal score of 96.5. But Edwards wasn't far behind: He had a 2003 composite liberal score of 94.5, making him the fourth-most-liberal senator." (Richard E. Cohen, "How They Measured Up," National Journal, 2/28/04)

And a seasoned political analyst says Senator Edwards' Southern roots aren't likely to be an asset to the ticket.

UVA Professor Larry Sabato: “He has only one term in the United States Senate. There's no other public office experience. It is really going to be impossible for John Kerry to stand up and say if he does pick Edwards. I pick the most experienced person best able to take over the presidency if need be. It is just not true and anybody would know it...don't forget Edwards does come from North Carolina but he is not particularly strong in his home state. He barely won the senate seat. Most polls over (the) last six years have shown him with low popularity. I am not sure he can carry North Carolina." (Fox News, "Fox and Friends," 7/6/04)

And Senior Democratic South Carolina Senator Fritz Hollings says, “I know he was born here and he and I are good trial lawyers together, but he doesn't have nearly the experience to go all the way and really take that White House." Hollings said Edwards lacks Kerry's "hard experience." (Hollings throws support to Kerry for state primary, January 24, 2004, Greenville News, by Dan Hoover – you can access on John Kerry’s website - http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/clips/news_2004_0124b.html)

“I guess this may be one of the first and last times Fritz Hollings and I are going to agree on anything,” added Chairman Dawson. ###


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: edwards; hollings; sabato
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1 posted on 07/06/2004 12:56:02 PM PDT by NotchJohnson
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To: NotchJohnson

I am a Tarheel, and this is Bush Country. We have dem-liberals who are always trying to steal elections here, but we will not go with Edwards. If Kerry thinks Edwards will help him in NC, he got bad information....we are and were Bush/Cheney!!


2 posted on 07/06/2004 1:06:34 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: NotchJohnson
I do hope that Kerry seriously believes that Edwards is going to carry the south for him - if so, he sadly mistaken.

People see that Edwards won the SC primary and they may think that this means he will do damage to Bush's efforts here in this state - but they are in for a rude awakening.

Edwards won the SC Democratic primary because of his ties here perhaps - and because the University of North Carolina sent a few thousand students down here to get out the vote for Edwards ... but that will not play into the general election outcome this November. SC people are not crazy about NC people in the first place ... and even worse about people that move to NC and set up businesses and residences there and then try to return and play on their SC roots. Edwards is a traitor to most of us - he has never done a good thing for SC. He has adopted the state of NC as his home state. To be honest I seriously doubt he will carry his own home state in the upcoming election, much less any of the other true remaining southern states.
Kerry just shot his wad with that one and it missed the mark. Remember, I called the DeMint landslide victory well in advance of the runoff with Beasley ... and I am now saying Edwards on the ticket will not help Kerry in the least. They will still lose all of the true southern states. Heck, they may even lose Georgia and unfortunately, because of Atlanta, Georgia politics are no longer truly southern .... but I can see Bush winning over there as well.
3 posted on 07/06/2004 1:06:58 PM PDT by JRPerry ("What You Think About You Do ... What You Do You Become.")
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To: Kackikat

I've got a home up there Kackikat ... and I agree. My parents have moved up there as well, in the mountains near my wife's and mine second home. My wife is from NC and my oldest daughter is graduating from UNC this year as a journalism major who was down here covering the Dem primary for Carolina Week TV ... and even she says she doubts Edwards could carry NC much less SC. Old Fritz, as much as I dislike his old socialist bones ... he is right about this. Kerry means nothing to us down here. Not enough to help the Kerry ticket one iota.


4 posted on 07/06/2004 1:10:47 PM PDT by JRPerry ("What You Think About You Do ... What You Do You Become.")
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To: NotchJohnson
I pick the most experienced person best able to take over the presidency if need be.

Could George Bush have said that about Dan Quayle in 1992? Kerry chose Edwards because he is seen as another, more attractive face for the Democrat ticket. A better communicator. He also chose him because the majority of the party leaders and rank-and-file wanted Edwards. Expereince didn't enter in to it.

5 posted on 07/06/2004 1:14:06 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: JRPerry

That's right, NC is more conservative than most people think, especially here in Mtns. I have friends farther east, and this is a boost to Edwards, because he would not have been reelected in NC. Maybe he can get a teaching job like Al Gore after election is over, or return to private practice.

We have people here who are registered democrats, who vote republican.

Where is "down here", Florida?


6 posted on 07/06/2004 1:17:15 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: NotchJohnson
"And Senior Democratic South Carolina Senator Fritz Hollings says,"

Ahh yes, the outgoing Senator whose own colleagues refer to as, "the Senator from Disney". I've nothing to add to the thread, I just have an intense dislike for Hollings, as he's been such a sock puppet for Hollywood and the music industry. It annoys me to no end when anyone in Congress, regardless of who they are, will submit a bill that's nearly word-for-word identical to the one a major contributor hands them. I'm shocked, to this day, that he lasted as long as he did in the Senate. I've been to South Carolina, and they are some of the nicest folks I've ever met. I can only wonder if maybe Hollings simply ran unopposed all those years.
7 posted on 07/06/2004 1:17:52 PM PDT by NJ_gent
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To: JRPerry
I do hope that Kerry seriously believes that Edwards is going to carry the south for him - if so, he sadly mistaken.

I agree. The days of the Dims being able to hoodwink the South with an affable southerner are probably over. I think the choice of Edwards has more to do with targetting younger undecideds, and especially younger women, than southerners.

8 posted on 07/06/2004 1:28:31 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: NotchJohnson

It is a double-bad choice for Kerry; Edwards will not help him pick up any states in the South, and the lack of Gephardt on the ticket will dampen union turnout in the key battleground states.


9 posted on 07/06/2004 1:37:35 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (When it's all said and done, someone else starts another conversation.......)
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To: TexasNative2000

I agree completely, and have said so in a number of other threads today . . . . .


10 posted on 07/06/2004 1:38:39 PM PDT by smonk
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To: TexasNative2000
It is a double-bad choice for Kerry

I agree. It's going to be fun to watch. I don't think he'll be able to flip flop his way out of this one.

11 posted on 07/06/2004 1:41:15 PM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: NotchJohnson
"According to the National Journal, "Kerry and Edwards aren't all that different, at least not when it comes to how they voted on key issues before the Senate last year. The results of the vote ratings show that Kerry was the most liberal senator in 2003, with a composite liberal score of 96.5. But Edwards wasn't far behind: He had a 2003 composite liberal score of 94.5, making him the fourth-most-liberal senator." (Richard E. Cohen, "How They Measured Up," National Journal, 2/28/04)

This should be enough to sink ths dim ticket. There are 100 senators in the US senate. Ano two of the four most liberal of that 100 make up the dim ticket. There should be a way to present this information in a simple, graphic way that would make it very, very obvious to anyone that this ticket is much too liberal for mainstream America.

12 posted on 07/06/2004 1:50:30 PM PDT by lstanle
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To: NotchJohnson
Foghorn Leghorn bttt.

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13 posted on 07/06/2004 2:04:59 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: Non-Sequitur
Could George Bush have said that about Dan Quayle in 1992?

I think times have changed a bit, don't you? When you've got terrorists crashing into the Pentagon, it sems reasonable to make sure the second in command isn't a ninny. I think the presidency, in general (and W in particular), is a bigger target these days.

14 posted on 07/06/2004 2:25:18 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna
When you've got terrorists crashing into the Pentagon, it sems reasonable to make sure the second in command isn't a ninny.

I would have thought that that would always have been a consideration.

15 posted on 07/06/2004 2:27:31 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur (Jefferson Davis - the first 'selected, not elected' president.)
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To: NotchJohnson

Rubbish. Edwards lies and takes money for a living. He has plenty of experience. :)


16 posted on 07/06/2004 2:29:34 PM PDT by Tealc
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To: NotchJohnson

BOOKMARKED.

The sourced quotes are GOLD.


17 posted on 07/06/2004 2:30:26 PM PDT by onyx (Be a monthly or a $1 a Day donor to FR -- I am.)
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To: NotchJohnson
The only "experience" Edwards has is mining those grief stricken folks who had an excellent chance of lining the ghouls pockets.

For those with less than an excellent chance Sir Lancelot told them to pound sand.

18 posted on 07/06/2004 2:31:54 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: Non-Sequitur

Quayle was one of the fastest rising, most respected Senators at the time he was chosen. Unfortunately, he got Borked, in the political sense. He was definitely a hot prospect for Senate leadership or the White House at the time. By '92, he was dead in the water.


19 posted on 07/06/2004 2:33:27 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Kackikat
"Down here" is South Carolina. My oldest is at UNC, my second oldest at The College of Charleston and and my youngest at USC.

My wife and I have a home in Hendersonville, NC, one here on Lake Murray in SC and a condo on the Outer Banks so I keep up with NC politics as closely as possible. Plus my parents have retired to Tryon, NC.

We need to get a Western NC FReep Chapter going. :)
20 posted on 07/06/2004 2:37:15 PM PDT by JRPerry ("What You Think About You Do ... What You Do You Become.")
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