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Clip used in 'Fahrenheit 9/11' upsets local TV station
Mlive ^ | 6/29/04

Posted on 06/29/2004 11:06:31 AM PDT by areafiftyone

While an appearance by a local TV reporter in the controversial film "Fahrenheit 9/11" has yielded shouts of recognition among local movie-goers, it's less delightful for managers at WNEM TV-5.

"All I can tell you is we're totally surprised that clips from our local newscast were used," said Ian Rubin, news director for WNEM, the CBS affiliate based in Saginaw.

"We're looking into it right now as a potential copyright violation," Rubin said.

The Michael Moore movie, an indictment of President Bush's leadership and his decision to go to war in Iraq after the 2001 terrorist attacks, took in $23.9 million to become the first documentary to debut as Hollywood's top weekend film.

About one minute of the film features footage of TV-5 reporter Dave Bondy interviewing Frances and Mel Stroik of Thomas Township about their fear of a terrorist attack in mid-Michigan.

The local clip airs during a segment focusing on what filmmaker Moore purports were attempts by the president and other officials to instill fear in Americans after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Bondy interviewed the Stroiks while they were Christmas shopping in 2001 at Saginaw Township's Green Acres Plaza.

Frances Stroik told Bondy that living near what she suggested are potential terrorist-target cities - Midland, Flint and Detroit - made her nervous.

"You never know where they're going to hit," Mel Stroik added.

Rubin said calls began pouring into the station and to Bondy after the film opened on Friday evening.

"I haven't seen the movie," Rubin said. "But anything can be taken out of context."

The Stroiks, meanwhile, are supportive of Moore's efforts, though they haven't seen the movie yet, either.

"He's doing what he believes in," said Frances Stroik, 62, of Moore. "You can't fault a guy for that."

Theater owners in cities large and small reported sellout crowds over the weekend.

The movie opened Friday in Saginaw and Midland, and will open Wednesday at the Hampton 6 in Hampton Township.

"This was a very, very tricky film," said Todd Cottrell, Hampton 6 theater manager. "When they opened it up, it was a very limited release to a small number of theaters. But with the overwhelming popularity," more prints have been pressed and distributed, Cottrell said.

Cottrell said he looks forward to seeing the film - and apparently, so do dozens of theater patrons, who've called and e-mailed the theater to complain about it not being shown here.

Showtimes are 11:10 a.m., 1:40 p.m., 4:20 p.m., 6:40 p.m. and 9 p.m.

Flint resident Lila Lipscomb, who is prominently featured in "Fahrenheit 9/11," has seen the movie three times, and plans to see it again.

Moore focuses on Lipscomb's reaction to the death of her son, Army Sgt. Michael Pedersen, 26, who was killed while fighting in Iraq on April 2, 2003.

Lipscomb, 50, is shown putting up her American flag, crying as she reads the last letter her son sent home to the family and visiting the White House lawn, where she pours out her angst and sorrow over her son's death.

"I feel so blessed to be able to have my gut-wrenching feelings be able to touch so many people," she said. "Literally, people are calling my home and giving me messages. Men - men - are telling me how when they left the movie, they were just sobbing." <


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To: kcvl

What a repulsive looking group.


41 posted on 06/29/2004 12:09:04 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.)
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To: Lokibob

" some of the profits taken away"

Change that wording to take away moore's money. there are no profits to be taken.

The only positive aspect to this film, george soros, the communist party, et at, sure are losing a lot of money! Especially now the the Socialist Party wants to break away from ANSWER!


42 posted on 06/29/2004 12:12:41 PM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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43 posted on 06/29/2004 12:20:30 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: kcvl

Wow, what a fat slob! Dude, throw a salad into the rotation every now and then. On second thought, go ahead and pig out - the sooner you go, the better. There's 70 cases of twinkies waiting for you.


44 posted on 06/29/2004 12:35:36 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (Were those magic grits?)
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To: SW6906

I thought that was strange, too.


45 posted on 06/29/2004 12:50:16 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: kcvl


What are the sources for your posts?

They're not on our except list, right?


46 posted on 06/29/2004 12:53:38 PM PDT by stands2reason (Everyone's a self-made man -- but only the successful are willing to admit it.)
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To: areafiftyone
Cottrell said he looks forward to seeing the film - and apparently, so do dozens of theater patrons, who've called and e-mailed the theater to complain about it not being shown here.

Dozens? A ground swell, huh?
47 posted on 06/29/2004 1:08:36 PM PDT by schaketo (Never skinny dip in the same pond as snapping turtles.)
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To: Lokibob

Depends....if he took the pics on his own, he owns the copyright. If he took them on someone else's time, they own it. Moore may have got them that way.


48 posted on 06/29/2004 7:19:18 PM PDT by crona (Long time reader first time poster)
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To: stands2reason

Those are excerpts!


49 posted on 06/29/2004 8:27:04 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: stands2reason; Admin Moderator
Flint woman spotlighted in Moore's latest movie
Detroit Free Press, 5/29/04

Excerpts:

This was an excerpt

Some people must have more time on their hands than most of us do to keep up with all mistakes made by others.

50 posted on 06/29/2004 8:34:14 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: areafiftyone

**"We're looking into it right now as a potential copyright violation," Rubin said. **

Great, Michael Moore doesn't have free reign on all of this.


51 posted on 06/29/2004 8:40:00 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: areafiftyone
I think a lot of folks here are missing two big points about this movie.

First, I don't think that everyone that sees the movie is a flaming leftist. Millions of people in this country have a gut feeling that "something just isn't right". They look at the assault on our liberties, jobs being shipped overseas, massive budget and trade deficits, large increases in social spending, and an open border.

Then they turn on the evening news, and see the biggest story of the week has to do with wether or not Cheney used the "F" word on the Senate floor.

And then a documentary like this comes out, that challenges the "system". People are searching for the truth, which explains why so many people have gone to see this documentary. (Which doesn't mean there is any truth in this film, simply that nature abhors a vacuum)

Secondly, I believe this movie shows that there is a very large market out there for presenting the real truth to people about what is going on this country. A conservative constitutionalist just needs to come along and make a documentary. It would probably do 3 times as well as this film by Moore.

Some of the griping about this film has become hysterical. One poster here was suggesting the FBI "start a file" on anyone that attended the movie. Others have questioned the box office numbers. And yet others keep tossing around words like "treason" and "sedition".

People need to step back and look at the big picture, which is that many Americans know that something is VERY wrong with the direction of this country. There is a large void to be filled, and if Freedom-oriented folks don't fill it, people like Moore certainly will.

Ultimately, the fate of the Republic lies with the hearts and minds of the American people, and as such, they need to be presented the facts on such things as the assault on our liberties, the conspiracy to destroy the family and morality, etc....

Maybe someone like Reagan will step forward to present this information to the American people. Like Reagan, I still beleive the American people will do the right thing most of the time, if presented with the truth. We just need someone to present the facts to them on a large scale (all of us should do so on smaller scales, within our spheres of influence).

52 posted on 06/29/2004 8:53:28 PM PDT by Mulder (To be born free is an accident,to live free is your duty,to die free is your obligation. Wm. Coulter)
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To: areafiftyone
"He's doing what he believes in," said Frances Stroik, 62, of Moore. "You can't fault a guy for that."

So is Osama.

53 posted on 06/29/2004 8:55:41 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: Mulder

Hey, wet blanket, why did you need to bring reason and logic into this?


54 posted on 06/29/2004 9:32:15 PM PDT by libravoter (Live from the People's Republic of Cambridge)
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