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UN Confirms: WMDs Smuggled Out of Iraq
The Vanguard ^ | June 18, 2004 | Rod D. Martin

Posted on 06/24/2004 12:35:11 AM PDT by Veritas_est

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To: Veritas_est

This stunning piece of news (that we Freeper all knew anyway) needs to be broadcasted on every abc news channel in the country. It won't of course, because it will only help President Bush.


61 posted on 06/24/2004 6:37:46 AM PDT by Lucky2 ( 2004 is the year the Yankees will win the World Series and GWB will be re-elected!)
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To: Veritas_est

BTTT


62 posted on 06/24/2004 6:38:29 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Veritas_est

Certainly believable. If you recall, Iraq flew its jet fighters to Iran prior to the Gulf War to protect them. For some reason, everyone seems to ignore Saddam's MO.


63 posted on 06/24/2004 6:41:57 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Veritas_est
...but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them -- as far afield as Jordan, Turkey and even Holland.

But, Blix stated, whilst picking the escargot from his teeth in Paris, "We have found nothing, no WMDs, no weapons, no plans, Mr. Saddam is like the toothfairy, a good man. BURP!"

64 posted on 06/24/2004 6:46:16 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: Veritas_est

I might add that Jim Quinn has been reporting for the last week or so that Libya was housing Iraqi scientists and materials in an underground facility that was working on nuclear technology. Not a word elsewhere that I've seen.


65 posted on 06/24/2004 6:53:32 AM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: mitch5501
Since it's likely your only non-Australian sources for television news are the BBC World Service and CNN you should reverse your policy and believe only things to don't see "on the telly".

Also, don't hold your breath about a reduction in the claptrap. The defeat of President Bush is a much higher priority than keeping our cities intact and our people from being gassed to death, or didn't you get the memo?

66 posted on 06/24/2004 6:54:29 AM PDT by katana
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To: xzins
This corners the opposition in terms of their prior claims, but it opens the brilliant strategy of claiming that (1) Under Clinton they were contained in Iraq, and (2)The war (Pres. Bush) has CAUSED their proliferation.

I think you and I both know that this would be (will be) a bull-crap argument.

Saddam was (probably) involved in the 1993 WTC bombing, (most likely) provided training for the 2001 WTC attacks, and wasn't building WMD's for another losing Conventional War against Iran... but rather for Asymmetrical Terrorist and Proliferation Warfare against the USA.

I've read both the "Pro-War" and "Anti-War" sources, and have come to the conclusion that the above (bolded paragraph) is probably closest to the Truth. Or, at least, close enough for Government Work.

I do, still, wish we had attempted Assassination and Regime Destablization first -- prior to outright War (as I said before: "Go Ehud [see Judges 3]! That great, Biblical example of Ethically-Christian, no-collateral-damage, Assassination.")

The problem right now is HUGE. They have stopped the war on terror in order to rebuild Iraq. Perhaps Iraq should eventually be rebuilt, but only after all the terrorist host nations are gone. They are not. We MUST: 1. Conquer Syria. Period...there is no other answer. 2. Conquer Iran. Their nuclear program and their harboring of terrorists for years (they are actually the MAJOR terrorist nation....not Iraq) makes them a necessary conquest. 3. Overthrow Saudi. 4. Defeat Musharraff's enemies in Pakistan in detail, and then turn against any mountain taliban/al qaeda. 5. Fully support Putin in the muslim provinces of the former soviet -- Chechnya, Khazastan, etc. 6. Same #4 in Philippines and Indonesia.

Your program for a "World War II style Victory" will require at least $500 Billion which has already been earmarked by Bush for the Kennedy Education Bill, Farm Subsidies, and Rebuilding Iraq.

The Money is there (we're already running a $500 Billion dollar deficit, anyway), if you can pry it from the Pork-Barrels into which it is already sunk.

I doubt this will happen.

I continue to think another option might work, also -- Get Out. Spend a few Tens of Billions developing the Canadian Oil Sands (more Oil than Saudi Arabia) and tell the Middle East: "We don't want, or need, you anymore. 'Great Satan'? Hardly -- We're now the 'Great Irrelevance' on the other side of the World, with no interest in you whatsoever. Why don't you get back to killing eachother again, and knock on our door in another 1,000 years when you've decided which one of y'all are the 'True Muslims'?"

However, this won't happen, either.

My own expectation is that political inertia will reign, and we will build a few basis in Iraq, support a local "Puppet Government" as riddled with Anti-Americanists as that of our "friends" the Saudis, and remain neck-deep in a snake-pit which costs us far more Blood and Treasure than it delivers to us in Oil.

Sorry, but that's how I see it.


Oh, admittedly, there is the possibility that Iraq might develop into the "Lady Liberty of the Middle East".
I rate this about as likely as the 65% Shi'ite Population of Iraq voluntarily giving up their tradition of beating their own heads with swords.

67 posted on 06/24/2004 6:56:45 AM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
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To: Veritas_est
... but also the discovery of many (but not most) of these items - with UN inspection tags still on them ...

What on earth is THAT statement about?
68 posted on 06/24/2004 7:08:28 AM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Veritas_est; armyboy; kjfine; musical_airman; aft_lizard; Old Sarge; USAF_TSgt; darkwing104; ...
"In a report which might alternately be termed “stunning” or “terrifying”, United Nations weapons inspectors confirmed last week
not merely that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, but that he smuggled them out of his country, before, during and after the war."

TV and Cable newsrooms ignore the real stories one more time PING
69 posted on 06/24/2004 7:09:04 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (TV and Cable Newsrooms want Hanoi Kerry to be President Just say NO to the big 5 liberal media)
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To: OXENinFLA
Well, now.

So are we going to get an apology?

[Insert sound of crickets chirping here]

70 posted on 06/24/2004 7:11:58 AM PDT by Not A Snowbird (You need tons click "co-ordinating")
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To: Veritas_est

Fox covered this on virtually every program they have. I know because it's the only news channel I watch anymore. Most pundits are saying it's scrap metal that's showing up in Rotterdam, etc. Yes, with the UN inspection tags still on it. The Rotterdam material was still radioactive.


71 posted on 06/24/2004 7:14:59 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Veritas_est

This shuts the door on Kerry, thank God. Bush might win 49 states if he now starts shouting THIS out day after day, refuse to argue and point to the document, read out of it daily, always refer to it, etc.

And if he (and the Iraqi government, the official state religion in their constitution being Islam) drops the hammer on each and every hardline islamofascist in Iraq instead of backing off, negotiating and HOLDING CEASE-EFFING-FIRES-THEN-PULLING-OUT-NEGOTIATIONS with the ENEMY, he might not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Did anyone see us bend over for the UN and screw our military yesterday in regards to The Hague? Nice./sarcasm


72 posted on 06/24/2004 7:18:12 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution (PLEASE EMAIL THE REALLY CLARIFIED CONSERVATIVE GOOD STUFF TO UR ELECTED REPS SO THEY KNOW HOW U FEEL)
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To: Veritas_est
This is a great article that summarizes the 'missing' WMD dilemma and the fifth-column left's denial of the issue.

The same Michael Moore types screaming 'Bush lied' now will be the first to scream 'Bush did nothing to protect us' when a bomb goes off over here.

I hope the left gets smacked down in November. Then they will scream 'Bush stole another election'. *sigh*

73 posted on 06/24/2004 7:20:18 AM PDT by Sender (Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself. -Tolstoy)
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To: Veritas_est
You mean Kattie Curic didn't report they were carted away to hopefully Syria?
74 posted on 06/24/2004 7:20:18 AM PDT by oyez (¡Desea vivo el revolutuin de Reagan!)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

I think your evaluation is a good one. I do disagree with it at one point, though. I do not believe the history and tradition of Islam indicate that they will cease and desist in fomenting terror against the US simply because we pull out and stop using their oil.

There is no nation of any other culture that borders an islamic nation that is not at war with them. Since we are the world's economic behemoth we will of necessity be involved in the economies of all those attacked nations, and we will not be able to ignore it.

They truly are bent on world conquest, and our withdrawal will only embolden them.

Fight the war now. Get it over with. Militarily we are more than capable SO LONG AS we don't try to occupy territory and instead restrict ourselves to overthrowing governments.


75 posted on 06/24/2004 7:28:21 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Supporting Bush/Cheney 2004!)
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To: Veritas_est
If PravdABDNC was anything other than an extremist wing of the DNC this would be headline news. The Stone-age Ministry of Information plays with our safety so they can return to power. Time to boycott anything other than Fox and other outlets.

Pray for W and The Truth

76 posted on 06/24/2004 7:28:31 AM PDT by bray (Let's win one more for the Gipper)
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To: Veritas_est
This could possibly be why some say with certainty that we will be hit with a dirty bomb. The administration may be trying to avoid a panic - people, stock market, etc. - while trying their best to stop it.

Does anyone have the quote from Ann Coulter about the dirty bomb found in NY harbor? That also got very little attention.

77 posted on 06/24/2004 7:29:03 AM PDT by mathluv (Protect my grandchildren's future. Vote for Bush/Cheney '04.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!


78 posted on 06/24/2004 7:33:27 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: mathluv
Does anyone have the quote from Ann Coulter about the dirty bomb found in NY harbor? That also got very little attention.

When was this?

79 posted on 06/24/2004 7:34:52 AM PDT by freeperfromnj
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To: Veritas_est

trust me, this will be huge after Kerry accepts the nomination. This might not come out until Bush's accept speech. Basically, Bush is daring Kerry and the media to accept the truth. Of course, they won't admit the truth, which will make September through the election all the more fun!


80 posted on 06/24/2004 7:38:45 AM PDT by votelife ("Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordian." Don Rumsfeld)
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