Posted on 06/23/2004 6:23:17 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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This could explain some of the homo-loving we've seen on our Michigan board.
I said a while back that the ultimate demise of marriage from a legal perspective will not be brought about by same-sex unions; it will happen when normal, decent people tell the state to "f#%& off" and refuse to obtain any legal recognition for their marriages.
A Roman Catholic does not get a state certificate when he is Baptized, does not get a state certificate when he receives Holy Communion for the first time, and doesn't get a state certificate on his Confirmation day. By that logic, he sure as hell doesn't need a state certificate to validate his marriage vows.
Putting government in charge of marriage continues to pay dividends. As with most things government controlled, this destruction has been predictable.
We stay silent because we see these people as beyond redemption anyway. We're not supposed to behave that way but there comes a time when Christians simply have to face reality.
Much as I'm opposed to gay "marriage," I've never seen this claim adequately defended (and it's usually not defended at all, but simply asserted).
I think the difficulty in fighting this is like fighting 'green snow'.
IOW, same-sex marriage isn't really marriage, just like green snow isn't snow.
How do you fight something that doesn't really exist?
Ping.
He missed the third possibility, that marriage is an institution that was co-opted by the state as a form of taxation in about 1500 in England. It then lost its meaning between God and Man. Today marriage in some states like Florida is treated as one of the most voidable contracts there is. No business man in Florida would sign a contract with as little enforceability as the current Marriage contract.
It's simple. Get the state out of the marriage business, and problem solved.
talking out against gay marriages automatically makes someone a homophobe which makes them worse than hitler. this is what the Gaystapo wants normal citizens to believe anyway.
Agreed! That's why I can't get too upset about the same-sex marriages, as marriage isn't any of the state's business anyway, IMO.
Carolyn
Gay marriage is a perversion of God's law. It creates nothing and destroys nothing.
Calling a donkey a horse doesn't hurt the horses. It just hurts those too stupid to see the difference.
Why bother? Only about 1% of the population is homosexual, less than 10% will get married. Very few homosexual marriages will stay together. So it is likely we will never see a homosexual married couple, except on TV.
I believe that Satan has lulled the church to sleep. We are very confortable in the knowledge of our salvation and feel no responsibility whatsoever do act on our faith.
Please see www.preparetoleave.com and click on Pearls. Because of His excruciating death for us, the fact that our salvation was bought at an extremely high price, should send us trembling. Our lack of action is SIN.
We must defend His honor. We must stand for Him. It is His heart that we must be concerned with. Pray to feel His burdens and then go forth fearlessly in His name and take the land back! Remember, the population of gays are also lulled into deception. Let them be drawn to Christ by our love.
We must work now while we can.
Marriage is not just a religious ceremony. It is a cultural imperitave. Christians don't care about state sponsored marriage for the sake of the faithful, but for the sake of the culture.
Without a proper definition of marriage, and a proper attitude toward sexuality, the entire nation will go the way of the family. If you want just one example of what way that is, look at the black community.
Shalom.
I can see it both ways. I think it would be better for the sanctity of marriage if it was, in fact, purely a religious commitment and sacrament, and if the state stayed out of the equation altogether. But, on the other hand, I have two teenage daughters, and I very much hope that someday they'll marry and have children. If there are NO laws around marriage, what sort of protections will society provide for my daughters and grandchildren? Will my daughters even be able to find good young men to marry? Or, will marriage be one of those things that the young men consider "gay"-- i.e., not something that a real guy does?
Whatever happens, I hope it happens fast, because my daughters will be ready for marriage within the next ten years, and if they don't marry and have children during those years, they're unlikely to do so at all. And, more than anything, I want them to have the joys of a loving family life.
Amen! I second that! The real battle is not whether the secular State sanctions an agreement between two consenting adults which is perfectly within their rights of free association. The battle is within the churches that sanction an unholy matrimony. Marriage is a covenant before God, not the State.
Perhaps what we can do as Christians is be careful to use proper language when differentiating between holy matrimony and civil unions even when speaking with hetrosexual secularists. Take for example a case in which a secularist couple announces to you that they will be celebrating an anniversary. In that case you could respond, "How long has your civil union been in force?" My guess is that you will receive a response of "shock and awe" and perhaps to get the couple to think about the nature of their union.
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