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Foxnews Paul Johnson Killed by Captors....
http://www.foxnews.com ^ | June 18,2004

Posted on 06/18/2004 10:28:28 AM PDT by TomGuy

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To: Frank_Discussion

Remember how horrified we were that we did not retaliate against the Taliban and Al Quida for 911 for awhile?..We want to hit something...anything, over there right now...

I want it to be well thought out and effective.

(Thinking about public beheadings of the Saudi Al Queda prisoners in retaliation by the Saudis is comforting me at the moment...fantasy,I know)


1,241 posted on 06/18/2004 1:24:55 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry's been AWOL for two decades on issues of National Security)
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To: swarthyguy

We are scared of ticking off the Saudis because they have 3 Billion dollars invested in our economy.


1,242 posted on 06/18/2004 1:24:58 PM PDT by netmilsmom ("We haven't begun military action. the world will know when we do." -Marine in Fallujah)
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To: Spook86

Excellent.


1,243 posted on 06/18/2004 1:25:13 PM PDT by SE Mom
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To: plain talk
My first choice is not to bail out. It's to win the war. Did Bush not tell us those responsible for Fallujah would be killed or captured? Not a single bad guy has been brought out of that area since we turned it over to the former Saddam military guys. Are you confident that after we've turned control of the country back over to the Iraqi's that those we put in charge will begin to arrest, try and punish those responsible for the murders and dragging of the bodies through the streets to be hanged on a bridge? Did Bush not tell us Al-Sadr would be dealt with? Somehow I thought that would mean something other than letting him send his people home (still armed to the teeth) and participate in the political atmosphere of the new Iraq. I admire your patience. I sincerely wish I shared it. I think I would settle at this point for the president to simply keep quiet rather than bluster about what we plan to do. That talk served absolutely no purpose whatsoever, in fact it was counter productive to the extent that he failed to follow through and that emboldens our enemies. I have a grandson, a son-in-law, a nephew and several friends on the ground in Iraq. I applaud them and what they are there to do. I don't want them pulled out, and they want it even less. I am simply trying to sound the alarm that this is EXACTLY how Vietnam went down, and we all know how that one turned out. 50,000 plus Americans died because we would start something and then resort to a proportional response. Bear with me, I'm trying to adjust to the world of 2004, but it's pretty hard for me.
1,244 posted on 06/18/2004 1:25:29 PM PDT by jwpjr
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To: NeoDVD
You wrote:

"Pick up some books and read about it, you'd be surprised."

I took you advice on Sept.11, 2001. I started reading the Koran and I was "surprised".

Sura 8:12 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."
1,245 posted on 06/18/2004 1:25:30 PM PDT by DocRock
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To: McGruff
With the operative word being angry.
1,246 posted on 06/18/2004 1:25:31 PM PDT by mewzilla
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To: kevao
Fine for you if you want your President to be speaking cliched, empty rhetoric. I want substance, and the country needs it, particularly now.

His empty rhetoric, as you call it, is to engage some part of the Muslim world to deal with terrorism rather than starting WWIII. He has given this country substance, more substance in foreign policy than we have seen for years, he has challenged the world and the United Nations and marched in accordance with his own vision. To act now as if he was gutless just defies reality.

1,247 posted on 06/18/2004 1:25:59 PM PDT by Dolphy
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To: eleni121; All

No and the lovely Suadis' are the ones that let 6, 15 yr old girls burn to death rather than to run out without there head towels! and the Saudi's who stone women in the public square for all to see or the Saudi's who sit back on the big fat muffs and collect billions of dollars from countries needing there oil while they let terrorists Kill innocent Americans...
And the Saudi's who torture anyone who practices Christianity..
ISALM==Devils Desciples


1,248 posted on 06/18/2004 1:26:02 PM PDT by missyme
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To: petercooper

There are photos that should be in that montage.

As horrifying as those are, the poor people falling to their deaths from that height, there are others that have never seen the light of day since the week or so after 911.

They have completely disappeared, the ones of bodies smashed on the ground. There was a thread on FR then that had some of these photos, but they were removed almost right after they were posted.

I managed to save one, only one. It is of a hand torn off its arm, just a hand lying on the ground.

Those photos never appear.


1,249 posted on 06/18/2004 1:26:07 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Peach

Amen. Loved your post. It illustrates why we have a representative republic and not a pure democracy run by mob rule. Some people do not think through complex problems like this carefully. Bush is running very complex plays on this war with quite a few fronts to deal with. The terrorists are not just in one place where we can conventiently nuke them all.


1,250 posted on 06/18/2004 1:26:45 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Adam36
EVERYBODY YOU MUST LISTEN TO MICHAEL SAVAGE AT 6PM. HE WILL GO NUTS OVER THIS NEWS.

He is nuts ... I'll take a pass on listening

1,251 posted on 06/18/2004 1:26:45 PM PDT by Mo1 (That's right Old Media .... PRESIDENT BUSH IS A LEADER!)
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To: texasbluebell
We had better face up to the reality of this enemy or we're sunk.

One guy said "Thank God for the Internet." I said 'Amen!'

We must now look to the Internet to find the truth and to view what we ADULTS want to see. A picture is worth a thousand words.

The days of squirming over seeing a spider has gone...and I am an adult and can make choices for myself. I HATE the media treating us like children! Let us make up our own mind........we can decide what we want to view.

I was watching Shep. The camera caught him looking at his laptop and winching. I could tell he was watching the video or looking at Paul's pictures. He described them to us, but he said "You won't be seeing them on THIS channel."

1,252 posted on 06/18/2004 1:26:46 PM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: television is just wrong

Sorry people, I have to disagree. The people who committed all these crimes are not Muslim, they pretend to be and use GOD as an excuse. There is a big difference.


1,253 posted on 06/18/2004 1:26:47 PM PDT by NeoDVD
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To: firstiamaussoldier
Absolutely. The enemy are the Terrorists/Murderers, not innocent Iraqi citizens.

1,254 posted on 06/18/2004 1:27:25 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Call me the Will Rogers voter: I never met a Democrat I didn't like - to vote OUT OF POWER !)
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To: All
per FNC: 3 militants killed by Saudi officials tonight.


That leaves about 1 million to go. Better get busy.
1,255 posted on 06/18/2004 1:27:37 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: rocky88

Excellent. (And good idea to protect your name from those who would retaliate...)


1,256 posted on 06/18/2004 1:27:52 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: kevao

Why not direct your emotions to the right place, the savages who did this and their supporters instead of being sarcastic about the one man in all the world who is genuinely trying to do something about them.


1,257 posted on 06/18/2004 1:28:13 PM PDT by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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To: All

The CIA should capture the " Al Queda of the Peninsula" or whatver they call themselves leader's family, i'm sure he has some, or his relatives, get Al Jazera or whatever outlet and send him an ultimadum of surrender in an hour or your family dies.


1,258 posted on 06/18/2004 1:28:14 PM PDT by Headfulofghosts
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To: Thommas
I have nothing against extreme if I thought it would be beneficial.

But this spate of terrorist activity will not be brought to a close until we win the war. That's what we have to do...win the war.

How do you do that when the world is involved in a world war, and the world refuses to see it.

The enemy isn't just located in the Middle East, and it isn't just aimed at us... Think of what it took to get us to Iraq. Half this country think we are in the wrong. It took Tony Blair every bit of political capital he had to get the UK involved.

Furthermore, this President is in the political fight of his life...not because he is doing too less, but because he is doing too much. War is hard, messy, and has set backs. Everytime a roadside bomb goes off, Kerry gains in the polls. Spain's government fell because of a bombing. Europe won't fight because they being overtaken even as they sleep.

How do you get this country to fight? If 9/11 didn't do it...then there isn't enough political rhetoric to do it.

So, right now (realizing that the situation was fluid) I see the absolute importance of a democratic and stable Iraq and Afghanistan. The President is involved in a huge gamble. That democracy will take hold in Iraq. And guess what, there are Muslims working along side of us (who are not our enemy) to see that this is done.

We can't retreat because that is what these animals are hoping. Paul Johnson isn't the target. We were the target. Staying and fight and building Iraq/Afghanistan is the right course.

And we are going to have to hunt them down one by one while we are stablizing Iraq because that's where we are in the war. When the time comes... Syria, Iran, the Palestinian Authority, and then the Saudis...

1,259 posted on 06/18/2004 1:28:23 PM PDT by carton253 (Re: The Reagan Presidency: Not bad. Not bad at all.)
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To: NeoDVD

Maybe not Muslim but ISLAM is a Psychotic Devil Cult no doubt about it...


1,260 posted on 06/18/2004 1:28:30 PM PDT by missyme
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