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'Widow maker' Lav3 in army budget blowout
National Business Review ^
| June 10, 2004
| Nick Bryant
Posted on 06/10/2004 4:45:00 PM PDT by Vetvoice
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You can rename the Stryker to the LAV III, send it to New Zealand and it still does not deliver anything except big prices.
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posted on
06/10/2004 4:45:01 PM PDT
by
Vetvoice
To: Vetvoice
Yawn...
The Stryker's have been performing admirably. Every weapon system is tweaked after it is fielded and especially when it is a combat zone.
This is a case of "Write it and they'll come" syndrome. Only it's after the fact. The Stryker is doing just fine.
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posted on
06/10/2004 4:55:08 PM PDT
by
VaBthang4
("He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps")
To: VaBthang4
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posted on
06/10/2004 4:55:37 PM PDT
by
VaBthang4
("He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps")
To: VaBthang4
Got references?
[Not PR sources]
Note: I don't think Stryker is 'bad',
I think it is far less than advertised.
Ergo, money wasted on a side trip.
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posted on
06/10/2004 5:11:30 PM PDT
by
norton
To: norton
No.
Do your own homework. The Stryker is doing just fine.
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posted on
06/10/2004 5:21:45 PM PDT
by
VaBthang4
("He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps")
To: Vetvoice
Ha. You should have seen the tender process we used to get them. Our MOD wrote it so tightly it could only applu to the Lav/Stryker, right down to the measurwements for the map and cupholders!
Then we faddled around tossing up between turreted/unturreted and the cost balloned because the non-turreted models needed centre-of-weight reenegineering cos of our extensive mods..
This was a classic case of our military deciding what we wanted and then making it fit the jobs rather than the other way around. I'm not necessarily opposed to the Lavs, but they're certainly not what NZ needs. At least an amphibious capacity and easier transportaion given our remoteness should have been factors.
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posted on
06/10/2004 5:23:44 PM PDT
by
Androcles
To: Vetvoice
Stryker and LAV III are different vehicles. There are no LAV III's in US service.
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posted on
06/10/2004 5:34:28 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: Vetvoice
LAV III's have turrets and 25mm cannons.
09 July, 2003
Kabul, Afghanistan
Canadian Forces Corporal Douglas Gill stands sentry atop a LAV III (Light Armoured Vehicle) at an observation point in Kabul, Afghanistan.
Cpl Gill, a member of the 2nd Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment (2 RCR), is one of the first soldiers to arrive in support of Operation ATHENA, Canada's contribution to the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Kabul.
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posted on
06/10/2004 5:47:13 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
Ahhhh....'kay. My bad...I was wondering what a LAV3 was...but when the article quoted 'Stryker unit' I made and ass out of you & me.
If you could...what then is an LAV3?
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posted on
06/10/2004 5:48:07 PM PDT
by
VaBthang4
("He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps")
To: Cannoneer No. 4
I google image searched LAV3 and got this...
No wonder they arent doing too well.
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posted on
06/10/2004 5:51:12 PM PDT
by
VaBthang4
("He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps")
To: Vetvoice; lshoultz
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posted on
06/10/2004 5:53:12 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
Alright now you might have to make me understand...
This is an LAVIII...
Now that is indeed a Stryker Chassis. Perhaps I am missing something. Why is that not a Stryker[it is at the very least one of the many variants]?
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posted on
06/10/2004 5:57:19 PM PDT
by
VaBthang4
("He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps")
To: VaBthang4
LAV3 is what the various Stryker sucks websites like Combat Reform and G2 mil and Airborne Equipment Shop call the LAV III AND the Stryker. By being imprecise they can better emphasize any shortcoming of any of a large family of 8-wheeled armored cars and ascribe them to the Stryker.
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posted on
06/10/2004 5:58:45 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: VaBthang4
Danish Piranha III in Kosovo. It is not a Stryker either.
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posted on
06/10/2004 6:03:18 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: VaBthang4
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posted on
06/10/2004 6:08:01 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
Okay...thanks. I figured as much.
Is the LAV3 one of the what 9[?] different variants of the Stryker?
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posted on
06/10/2004 6:10:28 PM PDT
by
VaBthang4
("He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps")
To: VaBthang4
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posted on
06/10/2004 6:18:33 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: VaBthang4
Negative. LAV III is the vehicle from whence the Stryker derives.
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posted on
06/10/2004 6:23:11 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: VaBthang4
Variants of the LAV III:
Infantry Carrier
Commander's Vehicle
Anti-tank Guided Missile Vehicle
Reconnaissance
Mortar Carrier - 120 mm
Mortar Carrier - 81 mm
Fire Support Vehicle
Engineer Squad
Recovery
Medical Evacuation
Medical Treatment
NBC Reconnaissance
Mobile Gun System
Self Propelled Howitzer
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posted on
06/10/2004 6:27:16 PM PDT
by
Cannoneer No. 4
(I've lost turret power; I have my nods and my .50. Hooah. I will stay until relieved. White 2 out.)
To: Cannoneer No. 4
Cool.
After looking around a bit it seems that the LAVIII is indeed a weapon system built on a Stryker platform. But in the end...it isnt a Stryker and does not have the same weapon systems, targeting or C&C capabilities.
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posted on
06/10/2004 6:28:41 PM PDT
by
VaBthang4
("He who watches over Israel neither slumbers nor sleeps")
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