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To: RightFighter
I always enjoy when someone calls someone else a moron and then offers up their "proof", and that proof turns out to be bogus. The page you linked to in this post contains information concerning fixes for issues that have arisen since Service Pack 1 was released. Most of these issues are accompanied by hotfixes that will resolve the issue in question, but they are not intended to be installed on EVERY machine, only on machines that are experiencing that problem. So, you can't really say that there are 499 patches that you have to install to bring a system up to date. That's misleading.

No. You're still just a moron. The context being discussed here was someone who wanted to create a CD that he could use against multiple machines as well as distribute to his users. In such a circumstance, it would make perfect sense to include all 500 patches (plus SP1) on the disk. While each individual patch may not need to be loaded on each individual system, they should all be available on such a disk.

Another problem arises when the user is faced with deciding which of the listed patches has to be applied to their computer. So, as a part of the process of creating the CD, copies of the descriptions of each patch should also be included so you could determine what was needed and what was not. It's a freaking nightmare, but you will gloss over it because it comes from blessed microsoft.

21 posted on 06/09/2004 12:05:44 PM PDT by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: zeugma

Totally untrue and unnecessary. The patches displayed on the page you referenced are not needed on the vast majority of PCs in existence running Windows XP. That is why they haven't been released through Windows Update as Critical or Recommended updates. Carrying all 500 of them around on a disk and trying to keep that disk updated and cross-referenced would be counterproductive when it is probable that he would never need any of those updates for his purposes. I maintain a corporate network with well over 100 Windows XP machines, of many different levels of hardware, and I've never needed anything more than the standard-fare updates that come as part of the Windows Update process. Thanks to Microsoft, I was even able to set up a series of Software Update Services servers and, using Group Policy, force all my clients to automatically retrieve their updates from my own servers and install them automatically without user intervention.


22 posted on 06/09/2004 12:49:53 PM PDT by RightFighter
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To: zeugma

You're a freaking idiot. You said SP4 in your first post, then come back and claim SP1. Either you can't count, or you're just a sour old fool. Probabaly both.


23 posted on 06/09/2004 12:52:06 PM PDT by Golden Eagle
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To: zeugma
No. You're still just a moron.

I think this statement in itself shows that this is the pot calling the kettle black, since it wasn't even me that you had called a moron in the first place. It was Golden Eagle. I was just defending him/her from an unfair slur that really can't be adequately backed up by the facts. Keep your insults straight please.

24 posted on 06/09/2004 12:53:32 PM PDT by RightFighter
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