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The Backlash Against The Left
GOP USA/Talon News ^ | June 1, 2004 | Carol Devine-Molin

Posted on 06/01/2004 9:23:06 AM PDT by Warhammer

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To: CyberAnt

By UCMJ, I cannot man a protest line, attend a FReep, or any of the other fun and exciting thigns you and other FReepers get to do.

However, that Lieutenant who gave the Democrat rebuttal amybe set a good precedent for insubordinate soldiers, wouldn't you say?

I depend so much on my fellow FReepers, to do what I'm not permitted to do. Hell, in the 200 Election, I couldn't even get my vote counted.


41 posted on 06/01/2004 2:07:24 PM PDT by Old Sarge (It's not Bush's fault - It's THE MEDIA'S fault!)
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To: CyberAnt

Forgive the typos - I'm back on Active Duty, and typing in between training...


42 posted on 06/01/2004 2:08:19 PM PDT by Old Sarge (It's not Bush's fault - It's THE MEDIA'S fault!)
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To: Ludicrous
When was that?
43 posted on 06/01/2004 2:11:03 PM PDT by Little Bill (Welcome to the Gay State!)
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To: Warhammer

THis is an example of where the left is spending its money now that McCain-Feingold is on the books. ie. The day after tomorrow. I've also seen several episodes of prime time where dialog between characters say things like 'no WMD' ...


44 posted on 06/01/2004 2:19:35 PM PDT by tang-soo (Prophecy of the Seventy Weeks - Read Daniel Chapter 9)
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To: Old Sarge

Well .. the West Wing tried it .. The Practice tried it .. Whoopi Goldberg tried it .. THEY'RE ALL CANCELLED SHOWS.

I don't think it's working .. but they will continue to try and then end up overplaying their hand - thus more cancelled shows may result. I don't know how long it will take for them to get the clue.

When I see that stuff .. I change channel. I also send a message to the program saying how their bashing of the President is out of line. But .. be sure you tell them you don't care who they vote for, but you wish to make your own choice.


45 posted on 06/01/2004 2:22:31 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Warhammer
It is worse than that. They are trying to run against substance with pure air.

A year and a half ago they were going to be consensual on the war but run against Bush on the economy. But the economy is responding to the tax cuts and recovering from the 9-11 shock, weathering high oil prices, and still growing strongly. That game plan clearly failed.

Dean dragged them to their whacko left on the war. All their professional pols were reluctant to go there, considering it political suicide to run against a popular president conducting a successful and necessary war against a deeply unsympathetic enemy, on the specific issue of that war, and on a platform of defeatism and pacifism and retreat. To get the nomination, their pols had to run hard left. They still knew enough to dump Dean, but they saddled themselves with hatred of Bush over the war.

And so this year they are trying to turn that into a self fufilling prophecy, using nothing but wind. The activists stumping for Dean who knew he was unelectable just three months ago, are not salivating over the prison photos and their chance to righteously hate Americans in uniform. As they hoped for "quagmire" a year ago, they hoped for a national uprising and Tet II from Fallujah and Sadr. They are openly calling for US defeat and retreat. And excoriating the men who won two wars in as many years against foes so evil they could have come straight out of central casting.

They aren't going to get a US defeat on the ground in Iraq. They are betting on hopelessly weak foreign allies. The Iraqi people are going to follow their own government to pro-US policies. Only tiny minorities are going to oppose this, as it becomes clear they really have achieved sovereignty and their own government, and don't need to fire a single shot to get it. Those minorities are going to get it in the neck from all sides. Indeed, they already are. They aren't going to crescendo through the summer and fall. They've already peaked, in April.

By the time the fall arrives, the administration is going to be standing on two large wins and a roaring economy. All the left is going to have done for 3 solid years of war is moan and bitch and carp and scream that the sky is falling. And the sky isn't going to fall. Right now, the press is so loud they have some in the broad public actually scared that it might, and that is the reason for wavering in support for Bush. But it is noise, not substance. It cannot possibly compete with substance and last.

Kerry already knows this. Watch his positioning. He is trying to portray himself - laughably - as tougher on terrorism and more effective. He is running right as fast as he can. He cannot possible make it all the way from Dean to Bush in 9 months, amid the cacophony of defeatism the left is emitting. Nobody will believe a word of the repositioning. Only some outright disaster can save Kerry now. Not on spin, on substance. And Bush is pretty well positioned against that, on the ground. Even a disaster has to come in a particular shape, if it is to help Kerry, rather than just reminding people they really want a serious commander in chief, not top spun by a defeatist press.

46 posted on 06/01/2004 2:51:39 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC

yet another admiring bump


47 posted on 06/01/2004 3:39:55 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: CyberAnt; Old Sarge
I know you mean well, CyberAnt. And unless you happened across the info in one of my FR posts through the years, there's no way you could know I've been a long-time volunteer on Republican campaigns. For me, volunteering on the Bush-Cheney '04 campaign is a no-brainer. Did so in 1999-2000 and am doing so again this go-round.

It isn't whining, nor defeatism, to express a sense of concern about the wisdom of the American electorate. I hope with all my heart that the electorate makes the only sane decision open to it this November. But that hope doesn't blind me to the fact that several tens of millions of my fellow Americans will mark their ballots for Kerry and the Dems. In addition, some percentage of eligible voters who consider themselves Republican or conservative will either stay home or vote for a minority party.

Let me put it to you another way: When I went home for lunch a little while ago, I quickly checked the TV cable news channels. On one of them (MSNBC, I think), there was a report on the new Medicare prescription drug card/benefit that takes effect today. Sure enough, the report took a negative spin. To make the negative point, the reporter interviewed some woman-in-the-street who complained that the 20% to 25% savings seniors would realize on their drug costs simply wasn't enough. Dontcha know that when you pay $800 a year for prescription drugs (according to the woman), that 20% to 25% is "nothing"?!

With selfish thinking like that rampant in the land, tell me again how being cynical about the American electorate is "whining."

48 posted on 06/01/2004 3:41:26 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Does anyone know what the meaning of IS, is in Clinton-speak?)
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To: Wolfstar; CyberAnt
It isn't whining, nor defeatism, to express a sense of concern about the wisdom of the American electorate.

"Sense of concern"? For me, it's open doubt. I have no trust or confidence in the ability of The Sheep to make an informed decision.

People in my civilian job are utterly clueless and unconcerned about The War. They get all their information from the nightly infotainment - just before they shut their minds down for "Friends" and "Jepoardy".

What was the quote? "No one ever went broke underestimating the stupidity of the American people."

49 posted on 06/01/2004 4:24:47 PM PDT by Old Sarge (It's not Bush's fault - It's THE MEDIA'S fault!)
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To: JasonC

I can only hope you're right. Until then, I can only watch the downward spiral.


50 posted on 06/01/2004 4:26:22 PM PDT by Old Sarge (It's not Bush's fault - It's THE MEDIA'S fault!)
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To: Old Sarge
"Sense of concern"? For me, it's open doubt.

I also have grave doubts. Just phrased it in a soft-soap way.

51 posted on 06/01/2004 4:37:42 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Does anyone know what the meaning of IS, is in Clinton-speak?)
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To: kevkrom
"I'm a regular view of Stargate SG-1, and I have to say that despite the points raised in this artcile, it's generally a pro-military show. VP (formerly Senator) Kinsey also reminds me far more of John McCain (?-AZ) than Dick Cheney..."

Exactly. I have all 6 of the previous seasons, and only "Kinsey" shows himself to be a badass. He is always portrayed, however, as a Bible-spouting bigot, so I guess that means he must be a "Republican."

52 posted on 06/01/2004 5:13:50 PM PDT by redhead (There are no new sins, just LOTS of new sinners...)
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To: CaptRon
"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Not Col. O'NEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIL!!!"

That's "with two "L's," remember?

53 posted on 06/01/2004 5:16:21 PM PDT by redhead (There are no new sins, just LOTS of new sinners...)
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To: Warhammer

i went into barnes & noble sunday and found a dozen hate-bush books prominently displayed on a center table across from the store entrance.

sean hannity's book was on the other side.

it's obvious where barnes & noble's interests reside--with the left.

i did not buy anything and continue to patronize internet book sellers.


54 posted on 06/01/2004 5:20:06 PM PDT by no_problema
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To: backtothestreets
You're scratching the surface of something that's troubling me. Why were media accounts of WWII, not just news reels, so pro-America? Why was WWII not a major political theme in the general elections of 1942 or 1944? Are those days gone, or just missing?

The media promoted the righteousness of WWII because FDR was a socialist and it was his war. And Stalin was on our side for that one.

It's like the media cheerleading during all of Clinton's "wars."

55 posted on 06/01/2004 5:47:40 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: HIDEK6
"The media promoted the righteousness of WWII because FDR was a socialist and it was his war. And Stalin was on our side for that one."

From the close of the 19th Century and the Spanish American War, until his death in 1951, the United States had a singular media mongol that dwarfed all his competitors.  William Randolph Hearst was not a socialist, yet his support of United States war efforts during WWI and WWII never took partisan form despite the presence of Democrat presidents.  Hearst would never have supported WWII if it had been FDR's war.  Hearst supported the war because it was America's war.  Hearst and the first President Roosevelt, Theodore, shared an imperialistic vision for the future of the United States that was far from socialistic.

Further, in 1939 in opposition to Franklin D. Roosevelt, Republican Presidential nominee Wendell Willkie campaigned against the government's lack of military preparedness. During the election, Roosevelt preempted the military issue by expanding military contracts.  For this, Willkie changed tactics and accused Roosevelt of warmongering.  After the election, Willkie called for greater national support for controversial Roosevelt initiatives such as the Lend-Lease Act and embarked on a new campaign to awaken America from its isolationist slumber. On July 23, 1941, he urged unlimited aid to the United Kingdom in its struggle against Nazi Germany.

No, Americans did not fight this war because it was FDR's war, or because FDR was a socialist.  My own father, a disabled WWII veteran of German decent and a lifelong Republican, was very opposed to FDR, yet served our country.  He, and millions of other Republican veterans would turn in thier graves to hear WWII was FDR's war, and they supported it.

Also, the ties between the USA and the USSR did not begin with the wartime relationship between FDR and Stalin.  They were rooted much earlier in the 1920's before the rise of Stalin.  Americans of all political persuasions were intrigued with the events of post czar Russia.  This initial interest led to the depression era migration of US citizens to the USSR (1930-1932).  These were the only years in our history where the number of migrants out of the country outpaced immigration.  Without this drain of intellectual and technological talent, it is questionable if the USSR could have produced the wartime industries necessary to fight Germany, or later challenge the USA.  The migration of American citizens to Soviet Russia was viewed as relieving the impact of the depression here in the USA, and received tacit government approval.  It is due to this experience, that the United States has worked with post communist Russia to prevent a similar "brain drain" to potential future adversaries.

What America needs to win wars is America, all of America.  GWB has the capacity to unite the entire nation in this effort.  When he chides Kerry and Democrats for trying to politicize our war efforts, he must also chide Republicans politicizing the war.  As Commander-in-Chief, he must bring all political factions to understand America is greatest when united.

I believe President Bush can do this, and handily win reelection.  I further believe his efforts in bringing all political factions into the War on Terrorism will translate into other political victories that now seem unattainable.

56 posted on 06/01/2004 9:41:57 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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