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Nick Berg: Michael Moore's secret cameraman?
Michael Moore, Salon.com

Posted on 05/28/2004 8:42:49 PM PDT by Objective Reality

Please pardon the vanity, but I've not seen this theory posited elsewhere in any searches I've performed.

First the admission from Michael Moore that he interviewed Nick Berg prior to his trip to Iraq. Why, in God's name, if Berg was just some foolhardy "mercenary" (as Moore calls Americans in Iraq in general)?

Then, with the slightest amount of further investigation, this post from Moore himself, on his own website. Note, very well, the date.

Quoting:

"I currently have two cameramen/reporters doing work for me in Iraq for my movie (unbeknownst to the Army). They are talking to soldiers and gathering the true sentiment about what is really going on."

Rather explains why Berg would have refused safe passage home from the military, doesn't it?

I therefore theorize that Michael Moore commissioned Nick Berg to act as his proxy / cameraman in Iraq with the stated goal of meeting and interviewing the "minutemen" of the "revolution," thereby directly leading Berg to his own murder, and making Moore himself more culpable than any member of the Bush administration in that murder.

If Moore has an interview with "pro-war-Bush-supporter" Berg, as is claimed, this should be very easy for him to deny.

Let him do so.


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1 posted on 05/28/2004 8:42:50 PM PDT by Objective Reality
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To: Objective Reality

Very interesting.


2 posted on 05/28/2004 8:45:19 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: Objective Reality

In a disgusting ironic twist: Note the name of the column on Moore's site linked from the above.

More fodder for the "CIA killed Nick Berg" vermin at DU, undoubtably.


3 posted on 05/28/2004 8:48:20 PM PDT by Objective Reality
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To: Objective Reality

To begin with,no member of the Bush administration was responsible for his murder.

I know you do not believe this yourself,and you just wrote that to illustrate the point that those charges have been levelled,and are ridiculous.

Your scenario sounds very plausible, I'm not one who is particularily given to conspiracy theories, but it does not seem as insane as most I have heard.

You might be on to something.


4 posted on 05/28/2004 8:48:29 PM PDT by Redcoat LI (You Can Trust Me , I'm Not Like The Others.....)
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To: Objective Reality
He really got around. I guess we know what this guys name is now, Nick Berg.
5 posted on 05/28/2004 8:49:46 PM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Bush plays CHESS not checkers)
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To: Objective Reality

That's basically what I think too. If all of this is on the level, I can't see how Moore would have known who Berg even was, let alone spent the time to get 20 minutes worth of film footage on him.


6 posted on 05/28/2004 8:50:41 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Objective Reality

I have seen the video, the short and long version.

I have a theory myself.

The Screaming you hear is well before they start cutting his head off, and, it appears it is NOT from Berg.

In fact, Berg does not seem to fight at all!

I wonder if he fell for the 70 virgins lie, and went down voluntarily as a Martyr, to be used as a pawn, williingly and intentionally killed, but made to look like a murder in retaliation for Abu Grhaib?

He would be a secret Martyr to the world, but in his sick mind, a martyr none the less.

Even though two people are sitting on his back, I thought there would be more struggling.

The Russian soldier getting his head cut off is wincing, gagging, and he is not moving too much, either, it may be just that he gave up and let themselves be killed in an impossible situation.

I would hope I went down either screaming the Marine Corps hymn as they fought to kill me, or, go down singing hymns to the Lord Jesus Christ.


7 posted on 05/28/2004 8:51:14 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: Objective Reality
So you think the strange route out of Iraq was to smuggle some film?? Maybe he thought Zickowie was going to smuggle him to another country and got killed instead? Could be a very large lawsuit for Hairy Fatboy if your right!! I think the Nick loves W line was cover. His dad sure hasn't stood by that lately.

Pray for W and Our Troops

8 posted on 05/28/2004 8:52:08 PM PDT by bray (Hey Yaaaawn, what if you had to answer hostile questions???)
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To: Objective Reality
Good reasoning actually. I can't understand why he would interview a supposed Pro Bush Pro war Berg for his film which is decidedly anti Bush and anti War. I just know something is very weird about the entire Berg story. MM would be able to explain this quite easily, the fact that he doesn't, speaks volumes.
9 posted on 05/28/2004 8:55:59 PM PDT by ladyinred (The leftist media is the enemy within.)
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

http://septterror.tripod.com/touristguy.html


10 posted on 05/28/2004 8:56:45 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Intellectuals exist only if you believe they do. ©)
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To: Redcoat LI
To begin with,no member of the Bush administration was responsible for his murder.

ABSOLUTELY Correct. The people responsible for Berg's murder were those who cut his head off while he screamed - all of whom should be hunted down and either summarily executed, like rabid voles, or literally burned at a stake, have no doubt - AND the International A.N.S.W.E.R. fanatics who motivated and backed this ill-advised, ultimately fatal mission of his.

11 posted on 05/28/2004 8:57:28 PM PDT by Objective Reality
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To: Objective Reality
Note, very well, the date.

Why not tell us the date and its significance?

12 posted on 05/28/2004 8:57:59 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Objective Reality
I'm still waiting for Michael Moore to address this on his website.

It seems that he typically has 2 stories. One for the press and one for the fringe element who support his website. They usually get totally different stories.

Not the same story twice (with 2 perspectives), there are things he just does not discuss in both places.

I don't think this was his cameraman. I also don't think that Michael got enough from Berg's comments to advance his agenda. Also, the inclusion of Berg's comments would also beg for Moore to address the kidnapping and murder of Nick Berg.

13 posted on 05/28/2004 8:58:38 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: bray

I think the strange route out of Iraq was in order to meet the "minutemen" of the Iraqi "REVOLUTION" (as Moore and International A.N.S.W.E.R. refer to them), ostensibly for an interview. This was Nick Berg's final mistake.


14 posted on 05/28/2004 8:59:02 PM PDT by Objective Reality
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To: RaceBannon

Race, I believe Nick was already dead at the time of the beheading. There was some apparent editing toward the end of the tape. As fas as Nick being MM's man in Iraq, that could very well be possible, he was, according to his dad, his murderers best friend they could ever have.


15 posted on 05/28/2004 8:59:19 PM PDT by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: Objective Reality

O'Reilly is going to have Moore on his show, as a guest. E-mail O'Reilly and ask him to ask Moore about the Berg interview.


16 posted on 05/28/2004 8:59:23 PM PDT by Eva
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To: JoJo Gunn

Thanks for the link.
Peter Guzli has been in all kinds of pictures across the net. It was a cool joke for awhile, until I found one of my own vaction pictures on the net with this guy in it. I almost fell out of my chair. LOL


17 posted on 05/28/2004 9:01:16 PM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Bush plays CHESS not checkers)
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To: RaceBannon
What is the long version? The 5 and a half minute version or something longer?

The murder video appears to have been shot with 2 cameras (with different time stamps).

Was Nick Berg castrated/genitally mutilated? If so, that could account for the screams you hear before his neck has been cut.

18 posted on 05/28/2004 9:01:34 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: Objective Reality

I will throw my hat in with the rest of the conspiracy theorist....

One wonders if the Nick Berg appeared in Moore's film before Michael Berg's name appeared on FreeRepublic.... hmmm, whos fault is this.... REALLY!?


19 posted on 05/28/2004 9:02:04 PM PDT by sd-orf
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To: weegee
Also, the inclusion of Berg's comments would also beg for Moore to address the kidnapping and murder of Nick Berg

To paraphrase a classic line from the movie Casablanca, out of the 275 million people in the US, michael moore interviews Nick Berg.

That right there begs moore to explain the connection to Berg.

20 posted on 05/28/2004 9:02:43 PM PDT by Dane
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