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ACLU demands removal of cross from Los Angeles County seal
AP News ^ | MAy 25,th 2004 | JOHN ANTCZAK

Posted on 05/26/2004 6:19:10 PM PDT by missyme

Edited on 05/26/2004 6:21:47 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

LOS ANGELES (AP) - The American Civil Liberties Union is demanding the removal of a tiny cross that is among historic symbols on Los Angeles County's official seal. The seal "prominently depicts a Latin cross, a sectarian religious symbol that represents the beliefs of one segment of the county's diverse population" and is an "impermissible endorsement of Christianity" by the county government, the ACLU Foundation of Southern California said in a letter to county officials this week. "Under clearly established law, the seal is unconstitutional," the letter said, warning that refusal to remove the cross in a "reasonable time-frame" would cause the ACLU to seek a court order.

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To: Skooz

The key is we have to have the guts to ignore the judges who agree with ACLU arguments. Mayors, govenors, city managers have to start telling these judges to go to hell.


61 posted on 05/27/2004 1:54:17 AM PDT by Clock King
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To: missyme
First they remove the cross. Finally they change the name of the city. The City of Angels is too religious. When it is all over, you will not be able to have the name Mary because is is named after the Mother of God. You will not be able to have the name David because it is named after a biblical character. They will look under rocks in order to pursue their anti-Christian crusade. Why you ask? It's easy money.
62 posted on 05/27/2004 2:07:43 AM PDT by jonrick46 (jonrick46)
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To: Susannah

Where's that LIBERTY BELL????

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!

WAKE UP! AMERICA! WAKE UP!

WASHINGTON IDIOTS--WAKE UP!!!!

SLEEPING CHRISTIANS--WAKE UP!!!

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!


63 posted on 05/27/2004 2:27:28 AM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Skooz

The City Of Redlands should have fought them in court. It would have been cheaper than settling. The ACLU should have been told to lay its grubby fingers off our nation's heritage.


64 posted on 05/27/2004 3:12:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: missyme

I would just like to know why Ashcroft did not have these people arrested and charged with treason after their behavior in the wake of 9/11.


65 posted on 05/27/2004 5:27:13 AM PDT by Houmatt (Dru's Law. Before the next victim is someone you know.)
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To: jonrick46; Quix

Oh crap! My name IS David. O'Reilly talked about this on his show yesterday. He was talking with a lawyer that was representing the ACLU on this. She said that the ACLU had a beef with the cross because it was offensive to the average person and violated the First Amendment. The cross is offensive but the Roman goddess is not? WTF? I really think that I am going to lose it if they win this one. They have far too much power and need to be stopped.

Who's with me?!


66 posted on 05/27/2004 8:40:08 AM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (All people are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights)
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To: Kerretarded

Most of us here are with you.

What about Corpus Christi, Texas? The name means, "Body of Christ" and I'd like to know why the ACLU isn't trying to mess with THEIR name.

What about St. Petersburg, Florida? St. Louis? There are probably thousands of city names that directly refer to Christianity!

Yet they go after the tiny visible symbol of the cross, it's an offense...

The ACLU is an offense, and the woman on O'Reilly last night was REALLY stupid, sickening, really.





67 posted on 05/27/2004 8:52:35 AM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: Kerretarded

i AM

1,000,000,000,000% in agreement with you!

I was soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo furious watching that, I had to change the channel to keep any semblance of peace.

Such TERMINAL IDIOTS!!!!

The woman was so BRAZENLY AN IDIOT!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Satan is stooooooooooooooooo brazen these days and getting worse!

Not that we weren't warned. Sigh.


68 posted on 05/27/2004 9:39:38 AM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: Judith Anne

Bill should have asked her why the ACLU is not going after the town in Michigan that approved the call to prayer from a Muslim mosque.


69 posted on 05/27/2004 9:46:32 AM PDT by Clock King
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To: missyme

When our the Christians going to sue the ACLU for harrassment and discrimination?


70 posted on 05/27/2004 9:54:52 AM PDT by fly_so_free (Never under estimate the treachery of the democrat party-Save USA vote a dem out of office)
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To: missyme

They are just some hired attorneys, and not necessarily deep ones. Take them beyond initial arguments and some will begin to stutter and drool.


71 posted on 05/27/2004 9:57:44 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: fly_so_free
When are the Christians going to sue the ACLU for harassment and discrimination? (Note to self- must use spell check before posting.....must use spell check before posting)
72 posted on 05/27/2004 10:02:58 AM PDT by fly_so_free (Never under estimate the treachery of the democrat party-Save USA vote a dem out of office)
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To: Luircin

Remember, it's a final JUDGEMENT, not a trial.


73 posted on 05/27/2004 11:40:10 AM PDT by gortklattu
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To: Quix

I really think that I want to start my own nonprofit organization. There obviously is not an organization out there already that is willing to stand up to the ACLU.

Does anyone know of one? Maybe we can hijack it like the RATS hijacked MoveOn.org. They turned that organization from a blip on the map to a household name.

Numbers is what we need. Numbers!! Until enough good people become governors, senators and reps, the name of the game is special interest groups. Is anyone good at rounding up people for a good cause around here?


74 posted on 05/27/2004 1:12:32 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (All people are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights)
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To: Judith Anne

That lady was awful! I hate listening to defense attorneys because they will never tell you their opinion.

I liked how Bill pinned her with the goddess questions.


75 posted on 05/27/2004 1:14:28 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty (All people are created equal, endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights)
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To: Prime Choice

do away with the electoral college and california and new york would rule the country.


76 posted on 05/27/2004 1:16:19 PM PDT by Southern62
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To: Judith Anne

And what about Santa Ana, Santa Monica, Santa Barbara, San Pedro, San Francisco, Santa Paula, San Jose, San Diego, San Juan Capistrano, San Bernardino...

Can't have cities named for Christian Saints!!

These ACLU people are plain nuts.


77 posted on 05/27/2004 1:21:42 PM PDT by GOPrincess
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To: Kerretarded


There are 3-4? Christian legal foundations which counter the ACLU but which are limited in their resources. Most are based in DC, I think. Try and Google but I don't know what keyword to suggest.

Much agree with you.

Blessings,


78 posted on 05/27/2004 1:35:39 PM PDT by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: VOA

Exactly! Motor boat manufacturers should be outraged, as well, ditto shoe companies.

For a larger pic, see
http://bos.co.la.ca.us/categories/commissions/laccw/Images/ColorCoSeal.JPG


79 posted on 05/27/2004 4:52:46 PM PDT by bwteim ("Begin With The End In Mind")
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To: Kerretarded

click on the following link for thousands of results at google for "christian defense fund"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=christian+defense+fund&btnG=Google+Search


80 posted on 05/28/2004 12:20:53 AM PDT by Susannah (Have you thanked a soldier lately for your freedom?- www.amillionthanks.org)
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