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To: broadsword

***I pray you to consider it.***

I went and looked it up immediatley.


"On the third day a wedding took place at Cana in Galilee. Jesus' mother was there, and Jesus and his disciples had also been invited to the wedding. When the wine was gone, Jesus' mother said to him, "They have no more wine..."


No one prays to Mary - no one asks her anything! She just asks Jesus. In doing so she displays the same power that the lowliest believer when they bring their problems to Jesus. Remember, Jesus promised...


"The truth is, anyone who believes in me will do the same works I have done, and even greater works, because I am going to be with the Father. You can ask for anything in my name, and I will do it, because the work of the Son brings glory to the Father. Yes, ask anything in my name, and I will do it!"


Jesus invites us to ask him directly - If there was a need to go through Mary he would have told us so.


230 posted on 05/27/2004 1:49:54 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

What a joke. The young couple asked her for help and she used her motherly authority to get God to completely reorder his timetable for the redemption (against His will), since His time had not yet come. Spin her into the gutter all you want, then face Him and explain it to Him.

I love her because he loves her and because she loves and raised Him for us. I honor her for many reasons, not the least of which is that He honors her and the archangel Gabriel hailed her as his queen. You stand on foolish ground in your fervor to dishonor her.


232 posted on 05/27/2004 1:56:24 AM PDT by broadsword (Liberalism is the societal AIDS virus that helps Islam to wage war against human civilization.)
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Jesus invites us to ask him directly - If there was a need to go through Mary he would have told us so.

As a Catholic, I do pray to Jesus directly. I also ask my brothers and sisters in Christ to pray for me.

Why do we even pray if Jesus already knows what we want? We don't understand all the reasons for prayers, but we pray.

Yes, praying directly to Jesus is part of our prayer life, the same way that asking others to pray for us is also part of our prayer life.

It's not an either-or dichotomy.

246 posted on 05/27/2004 6:57:30 AM PDT by george wythe
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Jesus' mother said to him, "They have no more wine..."

Good to know that they appreciated fine wine. And of course, there is no question that this is wine as we commonly understand it...and not grape juice.

252 posted on 05/27/2004 7:58:41 AM PDT by Meldrim
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