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America's 'Best Friend' A Spy?
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Posted on 05/20/2004 10:42:51 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
The evidence shows that Chalabi personally gave Iranian intelligence officers information so sensitive that if revealed it could, quote, "get Americans killed." The evidence is said to be "rock solid."
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chalabi; chalabispyiran
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To: Destro
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posted on
05/21/2004 12:01:21 AM PDT
by
endthematrix
(To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
To: Texasforever
Then why is he not in custody for spying?Because that would make the Bush administration look even worse than if he was just a friend....In other words, if he's arrested for spying, how and why did he get the information to spy with?
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posted on
05/21/2004 12:02:24 AM PDT
by
lewislynn
(Who made you, the casual observer, the expert?)
To: lewislynn
Because that would make the Bush administration look even worse than if he was just a friend....In other words, if he's arrested for spying, how and why did he get the information to spy with? OH BullSh$T.
63
posted on
05/21/2004 12:05:13 AM PDT
by
Texasforever
(The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
To: pete anderson
"... Good WP find but the atricle does not state that Clinton intiated that American affair with Chalabi, instead he seemed to have the most support in the GOP." There's a question many Republicans have long been asking:
Q: "Why on Earth are we keeping Clinton Administration holdover George Tenet as head of the CIA?!"
In my opinion, the answer may just be:
A: Tenet was a committed player with the Bush Administration about overthrowing Saddam based upon Chalabi's manufactured 'intelligence'.
It's no secret that US policy has been to overthrow Saddam since the end of the 1991 Gulf War. Even during Clinton's presidency, Congress led by Trent Lott took credit for funnelling millions to the 'Iraqi National Congress' which ended up in Chalabi's hands. This same Chalabi that's sentenced in absentia to 22 years in Jordan for bank fraud.
Chalabi's tricksterism has spanned three American presidencies. Rather than depose Saddam in an uprising -- something he could have never brought off -- he eventually got the US government to do it for him via 'Operation Iraqi Freedom' by frightening our post-9/11 sensibilities with the partially genuine threat of Saddam's hidden WMD arsenal.
The worst possible outcome here is that Chalabi tricked Bush into overthrowing Saddam to make Iraq's Shi'ite minority easy pickings for the Islamic Republic of Iran.
To: The KG9 Kid
Intelligence chief Aras Karim Habib, 47, is a Shia Kurd who ran a program for Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress which the Pentagon funded to gather Saddam Hussein-era documents and provide informants until it abruptly dropped its support this month. The Information Collection Program had received $340,000 a month since October 2002. It isn't even Chalabi that is under suspicion it is this guy Karim.
65
posted on
05/21/2004 12:08:48 AM PDT
by
Texasforever
(The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
To: The KG9 Kid
The worst possible outcome here is that Chalabi tricked Bush into overthrowing Saddam to make Iraq's Shi'ite minority easy pickings for the Islamic Republic of Iran.You may be onto something here. However, the intel he provided was not the only reason for this war.
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posted on
05/21/2004 12:14:00 AM PDT
by
InShanghai
(I was born on the crest of a wave, and rocked in the cradle of the deep.)
To: pete anderson
67
posted on
05/21/2004 12:14:19 AM PDT
by
Texasforever
(The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
To: InShanghai
You may be onto something here. However, the intel he provided was not the only reason for this war. Only if you needed a warm and fuzzy reason to make an example in Iraq to the surrounding region.
68
posted on
05/21/2004 12:18:07 AM PDT
by
Texasforever
(The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
To: Texasforever
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Just found this... U.S. officials have been irritated at the adversarial role he has played within the U.S.-picked Iraqi Governing Council. He has openly clashed with L. Paul Bremer III, the U.S. administrator in Iraq, and pushed for the new Iraqi government to have more power, including over security forces and oil revenues. He has been in the middle of an increasingly bitter fight with the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority over the investigation of the United Nations' "oil-for-food" program. U.S. officials are unhappy that he has been unwilling to turn over documents scooped up after the war that bear on the investigation. Some U.S. officials complain that Chalabi has been parceling out the documents in small numbers each month to justify the $340,000 in U.S. aid to the INC. U.S. officials announced this week that the money was being halted because Iraq was about to regain its sovereignty.
From Ally to Outcast in U.S. Eyes
L.A. Times | May 21st, 2004
And also...
Chalabi aide suspected
The Union Leader (subscription), NH - 3 hours ago
... and CIA were expressing concern about a "surge in recent intelligence" alleging that Chalabi and the INC had been passing sensitive intelligence to Iran. ...
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Raid to uncover Chalabi's secrets
Sydney Morning Herald, Australia - 4 hours ago
"Senior US officials told us today that they have evidence Chalabi has been passing highly classified US intelligence to Iran," CBS Evening News reported. ...
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American troops raid Chalabi's home
Longview Daily News, WA - 9 hours ago
... He has repeatedly denied the charges. Another source of Chalabi's tension with the coalition could be his calls for closer relations with Iran. ...
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UPI NewsTrack TopNews
Washington Times, DC - 4 hours ago
BAGHDAD, May 20 (UPI) -- CBS reported there is evidence Iraqi Shiite leader Ahmed Chalabi passed US intelligence on to Iran. US ...
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Foreign Policy
Washington Post - 14 hours ago
... Also, there is not much love lost, given antipathy toward Chalabi among many Iraqis ... that are unhappy with us are terror supporting -- Syria, Iran, North Korea ...
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Dangerous Game
Cybercast News Service - May 19, 2004
... On Saturday, Governing Council member Ahmed Chalabi called for America to turn over ... Iran must also be pulling its strings with the Shia community (65 percent ...
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Now It's Time for a Clean Sweep'
Executive Intelligence Review (EIR), VA - May 18, 2004
... arrangement, with a more credible interim government, minus the Chalabi types. ... would be fertile ground for neighboring countries, particularly Iran, to attempt ...
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LOSING THE COMMON MAN
New York Post, NY - 36 minutes ago
... Even before yesterday's raid on the home of Ahmed Chalabi of the Iraqi Governing Council, more and more Iraqis have been asking such questions. ...
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CIA and State Continue to Smear Chalabi
Insight on the News, DC - May 13, 2004
... In an article released on May 4, Salon writer John Dizard alleges that Chalabi made false ... in Iraq to allow agents of the Islamic Republic of Iran to organize ...
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69
posted on
05/21/2004 12:18:20 AM PDT
by
Sabertooth
(Mohammed wrote: "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers." (Sura 8:12))
To: Sabertooth
Damn. Well he is staring to stink like fish. This could really be bad.
70
posted on
05/21/2004 12:24:29 AM PDT
by
Texasforever
(The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
To: John Locke; Texasforever
Neocon Lets Cat Out of Bag
Robert Dreyfuss
May 19, 2004
Michael Rubin—a young staffer at the American Enterprise Institute who’s just left the Pentagon, where he played a small role as a neocon cog in the Office of Special Plans war machine—let a herd of cats out of the bag about his favorite Iraqi phony, Ahmad Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress.
Chalabi, of course, is the roly-poly perpetrator of intelligence fraud and the convicted bank embezzler who still hopes to be leader of Iraq. Lately, Chalabi has scuttled into a would-be alliance with Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, the scowly fatwa man. In doing so, he’s had the temerity to criticize the United States, leading some fuzzy thinkers to believe that Chalabi, whose puppet strings are made of steel, might be trying to show some independence from Washington. Well, says Rubin, who served as one the Pentagon’s liaisons to Chalabi, that’s exactly what they want you to think:
“Much of the information he collected was to roll up the insurgency and Ba'athist cells. It caught people red-handed," said Michael Rubin, a former Pentagon adviser who is now at a conservative think-tank, the American Enterprise Institute.
"By telegraphing that he is not the favorite son of America, the administration will bolster him, showing he is his own man."
In other words, it’s all a big con game. The still-neocon-dominated Pentagon—which this week stopped funding Chalabi’s INC —is playing its last card, hoping that it can boost Chalabi’s sagging fortunes by pretending to sever ties with him. That, the neocons hope, will allow Chalabi to strengthen his ties to Sistani, the king-making mullah who, they hope, holds Iraq’s fate in his wrinkled hands.
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posted on
05/21/2004 12:26:40 AM PDT
by
endthematrix
(To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
To: John Locke; Texasforever
William Luti and Francis Brooke is in the circle as well.
Here is something of a wierd take of flip-flop personalities:
"He has completely marginalized himself and turned himself into a pathetic, strange figure," says Francis Brooke, Washington adviser to the anti-Hussein Iraqi National Congress. "Which is too bad, because he is not crazy."
The above quote is not about Ahmad Chalabi but about Scott Ritter. Strange distancing from the real players.
72
posted on
05/21/2004 12:28:10 AM PDT
by
endthematrix
(To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
To: Texasforever
At least some of those links appear to be derivative of the CBS story, but the "Rethinking the Chalabi Connection" story at Newsweek precedes the CBS story, citing the latter as independent confirmation of their earlier exclusive.
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posted on
05/21/2004 12:29:39 AM PDT
by
Sabertooth
(Mohammed wrote: "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers." (Sura 8:12))
To: endthematrix
Look, I take anyone that throws around the term "neo-con" as being agenda driven prone to hyperbole and isolationist in outlook.
74
posted on
05/21/2004 12:30:26 AM PDT
by
Texasforever
(The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
To: Names Ash Housewares
Looks like the story has been brewing for a while.
Link May 4, 2004
"...Chalabi's ties to Iran -- Israel's most dangerous enemy -- have also alarmed both his allies and his enemies in the Bush administration. Those ties were highlighted on Monday, when Newsweek reported that "U.S. officials say that electronic intercepts of discussions between Iranian leaders indicate that Chalabi and his entourage told Iranian contacts about American political plans in Iraq." According to one government source, some of the information he gave Iran "could get people killed." A Chalabi aide denied the allegation. According to Newsweek, the State Department and the CIA -- Chalabi's longtime enemies -- were behind the leak: "the State Department and the CIA are using the intelligence about his Iran ties to persuade the president to cut him loose once and for all."..."
The article above linked to a Newsweek piece dated May 10:
Intelligence: A Double Game
"..But U.S. intelligence agencies have recently raised concerns that Chalabi has become too close to Iran's theocratic rulers. NEWSWEEK has learned that top Bush administration officials have been briefed on intelligence indicating that Chalabi and some of his top aides have supplied Iran with "sensitive" information on the American occupation in Iraq. U.S. officials say that electronic intercepts of discussions between Iranian leaders indicate that Chalabi and his entourage told Iranian contacts about American political plans in Iraq. There are also indications that Chalabi has provided details of U.S. security operations. According to one U.S. government source, some of the information Chalabi turned over to Iran could "get people killed." (A Chalabi aide calls the allegations "absolutely false.").."
I wonder who the ONE US Government Source is?
To: InShanghai
"... You may be onto something here. However, the intel he provided was not the only reason for this war." The intel that Chalabi gave us that we acted upon may be the *primary* reason for this war, however.
My view about this whole mess is that I really don't care what the reasoning was for going to war against Saddam because I know we were justified the moment he violated the ceasefire agreement by firing so much as a BB-gun at a Coalition plane protecting the UN's 'No-Fly Zones' as well as prohibiting the UN's WMD inspectors from doing their job. If the world can't agree on those issues, perhaps it's time we fold up the United Nations or at least kick it out of the USA.
There's half a million dead human beings in mass graves in Iraq and they didn't get in those pits as a result of the Iran/Iraq War. The construction of Saddam's 'Supergun' cannon in the desert designed to lob WMD shells (that are still turning up, in fact, as roadside bombs) into Tel Aviv shows what kind of mad scientist plans Saddam had in mind, and the dead Kurds he gassed are the proof of his willingness to unleash them.
To: Anti-Bubba182
I have a feeling that the recent car bombing that killed the then IGC president could be connected to this. The only odd thing being he was a Shite.
77
posted on
05/21/2004 12:33:00 AM PDT
by
Texasforever
(The French love John Kerry. He is their new Jerry Lewis)
To: Texasforever
Everyone has an agenda. Neo-con is a just a tag for the insider players...they have an agenda. I just threw this out there, you asked for it.
78
posted on
05/21/2004 12:37:45 AM PDT
by
endthematrix
(To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
To: Nexus
Naturally, I'm very curious as to what info that he could be privy to, that when passed to Iran would "get Americans killed".
The missing WMD...nuclear...bio....chemical agents...the usual ABC's?
79
posted on
05/21/2004 12:39:13 AM PDT
by
hummingbird
("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
To: Sabertooth
"get Americans killed."
Weird phrase to my ears. Civilians, soldiers or both? At home or abroad?
80
posted on
05/21/2004 12:41:17 AM PDT
by
hummingbird
("If it wasn't for the insomnia, I could have gotten some sleep!")
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