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1 posted on 05/20/2004 10:50:09 AM PDT by Puppage
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The girl, who has been punished previously for talking in class and once throwing a calculator onto a desk, is no troublemaker, according to her father.

Not yet, but with Dad industriously teaching her how to flaunt authority, she might grow up to be Che Guevara.

44 posted on 05/20/2004 11:21:21 AM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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It is a stupid rule, but this girl needs to learn there are proper procedures for civilized people to address their grievences - Civil disobedience, glorified by the communist M.L.King - is to reserved a s last resort after all other options have been approached.

That is how we do things in what is supposed to be our representative republic - we are NOT a democracy for mob rule or anarchy.

She needs suspension the next time and her father can go to jail for encouraging truancy .


51 posted on 05/20/2004 11:25:44 AM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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I got detention for sharing my locker. It violated my rights, humiliated me, and messed up my whole life. I think I'll sue too.
59 posted on 05/20/2004 11:40:23 AM PDT by Samwise (The new media motto: All the news that fits our agenda.)
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LoPresti says the restriction is unfair because it assumes all students are potential troublemakers.

That arguement won't fly - several states use the EXACT same assumption in their game & fish regulations and enforcement. Such laws in that case have been upheld...

Furthermore - even though I don't agree with the rule (unless there is far more to this story - and an ongoing discipline problem that we have not heard about), the rule sounds pretty simple to follow. I wonder if she made an effort to request a change in seats. Also - is there any possibility she was one who caused trouble and resulted in the seating arrangement?

She also violated the policy not once, but three times.

If this lawsuit goes anywhere - it's a travesty of justice.

62 posted on 05/20/2004 11:44:11 AM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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"I think the school thinks the students are going to cause trouble at lunch. It's wrong to punish the kids who do nothing. We need to talk to our friends during lunch," Gianna LoPresti said.

You need to shut up and learn you little witch. School is for learning not whatever you want it to be.


63 posted on 05/20/2004 11:45:02 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for conservatives!)
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The girl, who has been punished previously for talking in class and once throwing a calculator onto a desk, is no troublemaker, according to her father.

sheesh, no wonder the kid's a brat.

66 posted on 05/20/2004 11:46:44 AM PDT by mombonn
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The way this should have been handled by the father would be to tell the daughter that she broke the rule and therefore must pay the consequences. However, also explain to her that she went about trying to change this rule in the incorrect fashion and offer to try to talk to the school administration about getting her seating arrangement and/or the rule changed.


68 posted on 05/20/2004 11:48:59 AM PDT by confederateone
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Assigned seating at lunch?

Lunch wa sthe only time that we didn't have assigned seating. It was nice to actually be able to sit with your frineds.

72 posted on 05/20/2004 11:57:41 AM PDT by Bella_Bru (It's for the children = It takes a village)
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While in school, also during the middle of the 70's for elementary school, we had to sit with our class. The teacher sat at the head of the table. We could sit with anone we wanted too, as long as it was at our assigned tables. The only time we had assigned seats was if we were bad during class time and the teacher would give us the dreaded boy girl boy girl asssigned seats. (In kindergarten this was horrible).

Even in the 7th grade, we still had to sit with our class. I believe just one of the many problems with public school is the presence of real discipline. In every day life, I am sure everyone of us has a rule, or group of rules that really sucks. We have to follow them anyway, or suffer the consequences. This man, should quite honestly, use this instance to teach his daughter there are going to be many rules she is not going to like that are going to require her to follow them any way. No one gets to pick and choose which rules we will follow, and which ones we won't follow.

I would be very interested in seeing how this turns out.


78 posted on 05/20/2004 12:04:04 PM PDT by ChevyZ28 ("Therefore it is the finding of this court, we shall no longer be governed by "We the people"...")
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This guy is going to create an out of control teenager.


97 posted on 05/20/2004 12:19:28 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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Laws and rules are for little people.

Obviously this girl has never been told no in her life.

She is heading for disaster butwhen it happens it will be someone else's fault not hers.

Don't believe it? Ask her father.

He probably will blame President Bush.


99 posted on 05/20/2004 12:20:18 PM PDT by sport
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The rules aren't in place for the kids. Its there for the teachers so they can sit on their fat lazy asses. They want to be babysitters, not teachers. Why, a kid might do something wrong and then the "teachers" would have to DO something about it, like correction.
Hell just shackle them and go have a cig.


120 posted on 05/20/2004 12:34:47 PM PDT by subterfuge (Liberalism is, as liberalism does.)
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"These are kids," said Giovanni LoPresti, 40. "It's not a prison."

Sorry Mr. LoPresti, but you are wrong. It is a prison.

While I happen to agree with LoPresti on principle, I'm against getting the ACLU involved.

What he should do is get a solid school board slate going and change the rules that way. That would be more constructive, and more painful to the ninnies.

129 posted on 05/20/2004 12:38:24 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America being passive. They were wrong.” - Reagan)
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Calling reverend Jesse Jackson, calling Jesse Jackson!

Don't bother calling the other reverend, Al Sharpton! I hear he's working overtime at Denny's to pay back the U.S. Taxpayers that $100,000 in matching funds he fraudulently acquired!

146 posted on 05/20/2004 12:53:57 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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Will the father sue the school again when his poor baby is burdened with too much homework?


149 posted on 05/20/2004 12:55:48 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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"Loser pays" sounds more and more palatable right about now...


159 posted on 05/20/2004 1:00:39 PM PDT by mhking (Don't wait for the translation, ANSWER ME NOW!)
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Sue, sue, sue, sue, America. Land of the sue. Don't get up this morning, just sue. Can't find a job, sue. Someone looks at you wrong, sue.

Just this morning on the news, there was a report that the city of Seattle has to put up a fence along a railroad track to keep people walking on the tracks because the fools are actually GETTING RUN OVER BY TRAINS!!!! Wow!!! Go figure.

$75,000 tax payer money. The city says it decided to do the fence because the LAW SUITS were costing more. People walk on the tracks, get killed by a train and the family SUES the city for not putting a fence up to keep these STUPID DEMOCRATIC VOTERS from walking on the damned train tracks!!! And these fools actually win and get money for their stupid family members hit by a train. Like a train can GO AROUND THEM OR SOMETHING!!!

One interview was with a girl crying, yelling, screaming how her best friend was killed by that mean old train while WALKING ON THE TRACKS!!! What a wonderful, great, smart, going places she was going to be. Now her life is cut short by this horrible train. Mean ole train. What this girl forgot to add was that her friend, along with all these smarts, was incredibly stupid for walking on a train tracks. Like, couldn't you hear the damned train coming or did you simply expect the train to stop for you?

This country has lost it. It has actually lost all perspective on being anything, closely related, to being normal.

161 posted on 05/20/2004 1:01:20 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American Way! Toby Keith)
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So this whiner doesn't like the idea of controlling chaos. Any bets who HE will be voting for in November?


163 posted on 05/20/2004 1:03:43 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (America's Enemies: foreign and domestic RATmedia agree Bush must be destroyed.)
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"These are kids," said Giovanni LoPresti, 40. "It's not a prison."

The prison part is debatable.

187 posted on 05/20/2004 1:26:25 PM PDT by cruiserman
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Excuse me for bucking the police-state mentality -- but assigned seating at lunch? Uh, no.


223 posted on 05/20/2004 4:27:25 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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