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Before you get your panties in a wad about "security during wartime", try explaining exactly what threat the people with dissenting opinions hold that those allowed to stand along the president's route (as clearly shown in the picture) do not.


1 posted on 05/14/2004 8:20:32 AM PDT by freeeee
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To: freeeee

Typical crap from the Crapital Crimes! They are the pukes who editorialized that our shot-down pilots in Nam should have been tried for piracy!


119 posted on 05/14/2004 9:35:07 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: freeeee

The key phrase here is the rabble wanted to use loud speakers. We have seen the left cause such disruptions that the speaker cannot be heard. George Bush has the right to be heard also, and here's another little fact, people turned out to hear him speak, not the rabble rousers.

You and your ilks behaviour has been witnessed when ever the right attempts to make their sound points, you scream them down rather than let the truth be heard or any view other than your communist drivel mindlessly chanted like idiot drones.

The left is dying in the USofA, after decades of destruction, failed policies and ideals, no one cares to hear their dying screams and no one will mourn their passing.


123 posted on 05/14/2004 9:36:46 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: freeeee

Try having a little more Whine with that Wisconsin Cheese.


125 posted on 05/14/2004 9:39:51 AM PDT by Pompah (The price of greatness is responsibility)
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To: freeeee
This article in the LaCrosse Tribune describes the event somewhat differently than John Nichols' editorial.
Hundreds of protesters turn out to greet Bush

By LINDA McALPINE, La Crosse Tribune

Uncle Sam, the Statue of Liberty, an Arab sheik and a Roman emperor were among the hundreds of protesters who turned out to chant, shout and sing their displeasure with President Bush. Protesters had planned to hold a rally of their own at the same time as the presidential rally but had to settle for a less formal event and a bullhorn. Speakers still addressed issues such as the environment, labor, peace, senior citizens and veterans.

Richard Wieland of Holmen, Wis., was able to make two statements on his 12-foot-tall, two-sided protest sign.

The one side said, "Regime change begins at home," with the flip side saying, "We're making more enemies than we can kill."

Wieland said he had been part of protests elsewhere in the state. When asked how this one was going, he said, "It's been very orderly."

Along with his hand-lettered sign � "American Democracy or American Empire n Which Will It Be?" � Dwayne Voegeli of Winona, Minn., wore a Roman emperor costume to try to get his point across.

"I'm hoping to remind people of their history lessons," Voegeli said. "You can't be a democracy and an empire at the same time."

Not only was Voegeli able to get his issue noticed, but he ended up giving a couple people a mini-refresher course on ancient history when they said they didn't understand the sign.

Although 17-year-old Ricardo Alcantar of Norwalk, Wis., had a ticket to see the president, he found himself outside with the protesters. "I didn't know you had to have an identification card to get in," he said with a shrug.

Asked whether he minded being among the Bush detractors, Alcantar smiled.

"I actually like to hear what they have to say, too," he said. "That way, I know both sides of many issues, so I can make a decision for myself."

Although too young to vote, Alcantar said, "I don't want to be oblivious of what's going on in the world around me just because I'm a teenager."

While her wheeled cart carried an American flag and a "Support the Troops" bumper sticker, Janice Krick of La Crosse didn't seem to mind sharing the sidewalk with the protesters, either.

Krick said she has had several sons serve in the military and became a Gold Star Mother when one was killed. She was unable to get a ticket to the Bush rally but said she still wanted to show her support for the president.

She looked over at the protesters with a grin. "I've gotten in a couple debates," Krick said. "But I don't back down on what I believe."

Linda McAlpine can be reached at lmcalpine@lacrossetribune.com or (608) 791-8220


130 posted on 05/14/2004 9:42:49 AM PDT by Cooter
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To: freeeee

So, where was the b*tchin' when x42 closed down whole cities when his entourage came through during peacetime?????? (I was late to work a couple of times when this happened!)


139 posted on 05/14/2004 9:45:20 AM PDT by Maigrey (Member of the War Babies' Live Thread Free Republic reporting service)
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"The Bush visit attacked First Amendment rights up and down the Mississippi. A lot of people are owed apologies. "

The articles content is bogus. There's an accompanying pic that says so. The road closings ect. are to maintain a secure perimeter around the president to prevent killers from having access to him. There was no violations of the 1st Amend. The zoo animals were prevented from staging a circus.

"try explaining exactly what threat the people with dissenting opinions hold that those allowed to stand along the president's route (as clearly shown in the picture) do not."

FUGW is not a dissenting opinion, it is name calling. FReepers refer to it as an ad hominum attack. Refusal to issue a permit for amplified protest next to the President's address is a matter of courtesy. Had the protesters had a permit first, they would have been able to blair their screetches w/o problem. Bush of course would have gone somewhere else.

140 posted on 05/14/2004 9:45:33 AM PDT by spunkets
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In Platteville, peace activist Frank Van Den Bosch was arrested for holding up a sign that was critical of the president. The sign's "dangerous" message, "FUGW," was incomprehensible to children and, no doubt, to many adults.

This statement is absurd. Most adults and I'm willing to bet money that a lot of childern could decypher that message. I knew what FU ment at the age of 7.
151 posted on 05/14/2004 9:52:18 AM PDT by armyboy (Posting from Sustainer Army Airfield Balad, Iraq. I'm politically incorrect and damn proud of it)
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No president in the last 10 years has any respect for free speech or assembly.

That is a broad statement, but I get the idea. The article you chose to post was unctuous and trite- as if King W were the only president to ever quash the voices of his dissenters. It just didn't ring true and, after reading your comment italicized above, I do not think that was your intention to focus soley on President Bush. But, since he is the current president, he gets all the spotlight. I can appreciate your concern. I just didn't care for the write up.

158 posted on 05/14/2004 9:56:09 AM PDT by new cruelty
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Cute little article...sarcastic as hell...but cute.

Reminds me of when King william of Monica visited Atlanta and totally screwed up rush hour on several occasions during his "reign".

And, wasn't there a time when King william of Monicaheld up air traffic for about two hours, to get a freakin' HAIRCUT?

Oh, Oh, and how about King william of Monica having a couple "detained" by the Secret Service for shouting "clinton, you suck" at some rally? So tolerent of disention, this King william of Monica.

Seems I remember King James of Plains screwing up traffic a few times too.

The author was obviously one of those kids who studied under the liberals' education plan, where adding a condom to a cucumber overshadowed Civics class, or he would understand Presidential security like the adults of the world do.
170 posted on 05/14/2004 10:07:29 AM PDT by FrankR
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As soon as I saw the title, I thought I'd have to get out my Upstate NY Ping List.

I was thinking about this guy:

King George Pataki, (RINO-NY)

191 posted on 05/14/2004 10:48:45 AM PDT by bc2 ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" - harpseal)
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I think we are missing one important point here... Obviously you have never had a sitting president visit your community. Security for Clinton (or his wife)would have been have been just as tight. Maybe you are just upset because Clinton did not think your section of the country was important enough to visit, and Bush did.

I've been fortunate enough to see four presidents - Ford, Carter, Reagan and Bush. Security is always tight, but we put up with it because the safety of OUR President is so important.


195 posted on 05/14/2004 10:52:38 AM PDT by Martins kid
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I'm sure you complained when Clinton closed an airport for two hours to get his hair cut, or when Gore shut down Atlanta every time he made a visit.

A little selective memory going on here, methinks.

198 posted on 05/14/2004 10:56:08 AM PDT by Junior (Sodomy non sapiens)
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Have you been living in a snow cave in the Antarctic for the last 10 years? Those "people with dissenting opinions" tend to be a pretty violent bunch. Leftists as a whole, tend to be much more violent than Conservatives. I will refer you to the archives for articles on the WTO/World Bank/IMF protests of recent years.


205 posted on 05/14/2004 11:06:01 AM PDT by Destructor
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The day that he was knighted as the presumptive Dim Candidate, Kerry was in Chicago.

My wife had the misfortune to pull in behind his motorcade as it went on to Lake Shore Drive.

She followed them at some distance, and described Chicago police speeding ahead of the motorcade and cutting off drivers in order to block the entrance as exit ramps as the motorcade proceeded.

She also saw heavily armed men in full body armor hanging onto and from the escort vehicles.

It's the world we live in. Someone wants a piece of the king, and there are people whose job it is to prevent that from happening.

So...

I suggest you lay your gripes out for all to hear, as you yourself run for office, in a bid to end this shameless royal display.

Then, you can fade into blessed obscurity, confident that no one really cares about your beef with 'the king'.


208 posted on 05/14/2004 11:11:56 AM PDT by IncPen (Proud member of the Half Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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Lets me know this person thinks that they are more important than the President. Reflects the pox of the " ME"generation.


221 posted on 05/14/2004 11:26:02 AM PDT by Ramonan (Compare the Circumstances)
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What petty people. They just hate that the president is getting out of the beltway and mixing it up with some regular folks. Maybe they know that he draws huge enthusiastic crowds wherever he goes. Crowds captured by local media and bypassing the liberal media. GWB should do a lot more of this, particularily in the toss-up states.


228 posted on 05/14/2004 11:33:44 AM PDT by ride the whirlwind (And we will defend the peace that makes all progress possible. - George W. Bush)
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Ask Don Adams about clinton's visit to Philadelphia aroun 1998.
He got his butt kicked by Union thugs and then was brought to court for it by the D.A.!
Personally, I think beatings are in order for all liberals.
And no, I'm not kidding.


229 posted on 05/14/2004 11:34:46 AM PDT by dyed_in_the_wool (Why do Al Qaeda and DNC press releases always sound the same?)
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Well, given the Left's penchant for violence (John Kerry's admitted war crimes; their gleeful support of murdering children; Ted Kennedy's L'Affaire Chappaquiddick; Pete Stark's demented attacks and threats; the "mulch-assault" committed by Wanda Baucus recently; the anti-Semitic murders instigated by Al Sharpton; the murder of 55,000 Americans in Vietnam and 87 more in Waco; etc.), and their treasonous statements over the past decades, and accelerating in rate and viciousness in recent months/years, I think its only wise that the Secret Service take such precautions.

Besides, this isn't different than security for any other presidential visit in the post-Kennedy, post-Squeaky Fromme, post-Hinckley world. When Dwight Eisenhower visited Mount Vernon during his presidency he and two agents stood in line to visit the house. Sadly, our world is different now, and due in no small part to the coddling of criminals and the divisiveness perpretrated by the Left.

249 posted on 05/14/2004 11:53:00 AM PDT by HenryLeeII ("Democrats are our greatest national security threat, bar none." -Henry Lee II)
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Before you get your panties in a wad about "security during wartime", try explaining exactly what threat the people with dissenting opinions hold that those allowed to stand along the president's route (as clearly shown in the picture) do not.

I guess the same threat as the anti-infanticide protestor standing on public property outside a Kerry event was posing when the traitorous PoS told one of his goons to steal and destroy her sign. Don't take on Freepers when you don't know the facts. Lefties are crazed and violent people, with the blood of millions on their hands. Get over it!!!

254 posted on 05/14/2004 11:58:42 AM PDT by HenryLeeII ("Lefties are crazed and violent people, with the blood of millions on their hands." ~Henry Lee II)
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Hey, Nichols, why don't you whine louder -- maybe then the couple who were thrown in jail in Chicago when they told x42 where to go can hear you.
259 posted on 05/14/2004 12:00:02 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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