Posted on 05/12/2004 4:27:51 PM PDT by doug from upland
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Apparently, I am in the middle of a controversy regarding the brutal murder of Nick Berg by the Islamofascist terrorist b*st*rds.
I received the following FReepmail today from a salon.com reporter and spoke to him off the record. I will either call him back on the record or he can use my comments here on the record.
Salon.com inquiry, your post on the "enemies list"
From (redacted) | 05/12/2004 11:45:13 AM PDT read
Doug,
Hello. My name is (redacted), and I'm a reporter at Salon.com. On March 7, you posted a list of signatories to an ANSWER protest; that list, which is now being discussed by a few left-leaning bloggers, includes the name of "Michael S. Berg," who is the father of Nick Berg, the man beheaded in Iraq.
It seems as if you just posted a copy of the list from the ANSWER site, but the trouble is, your list appears much longer than the one on their page. Michael Berg's name -- and many others -- is not on their page.
So I wonder if you can tell me where you got your list -- have you any idea why yours is longer than the one they have?
I also wonder what you think about the fact that you named these people enemies; do you really think they're enemies? Some people on left-leaning blogs are floating the theory that Nick Berg was detained or singled out by U.S. authorities in Iraq because of the list you posted. I wonder what you think of that idea?
I'm not trying to attack you; I'm a reporter trying to get to the bottom of this story, and it'd be great to get your input. Can you e-mail or call, or let me know where to reach you? Thanks so much.
--(redacted)
Reporter, Salon.com (phone number redacted)
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NOTE: my first suggestion was to tell the report to ask ANSWER why many of the names have been removed from that original post.
Here is my post from a few months ago -- HERE IS THE ENEMY -- they have posted their names
Here is the link for the following excerpt on an FR thread -- Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
Original source -- original article by Fintan Dunne
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
Breakfornews.com ^ | May 12, 2004 | Fintan Dunne
Posted on 05/12/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by Tarantulas
Beheaded Man's Firm Was On Right-Wing 'Enemies' List
The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death.
Nick Berg, 26 disappeared into incommunicado detention after his arrest by Iraqi police in March, 2004. He vanished again after his release 13 days later. His body was found last Saturday in Baghdad, and a video of his beheading --supposedly by a radical Islamic group-- was posted on the Internet on Tuesday.
The official story of his gruesome murder has many dubious aspects, not least the real reason why Iraqi police detained the young man at a checkpoint. New research by BreakForNews has uncovered a plausible explanation.
The FreeRepublic.com web site and forum has a reputation for right-wing views, often fanatical Republican and relentless pro-war activism.
On 7th March, 2004, just three weeks before the first anniversary of the invasion of Iraq, an 'enemies' list of anti-war groups and individuals was posted on the Free Republic forum.
It began: "Here you are, FReepers. Here is the enemy."
The list had been copied from publicly available endorsements of a call to action for an imminent anniversary antiwar protest on 20th March, 2004. The protest was being organized under the banner of the A.N.S.W.E.R Coalition (Act Now to Stop War & End Racism).
Among those listed as having endorsed the call to action was this entry: "Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc."
That's Nick Berg's father, Michael who acts as business manager for his son in their family radio communications firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service.
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Here is my immediate reaction --- what is the color of the sky in the fantasy world which Fintan Dunne calls home?
I can't wait for her next story. Let's set the scenario. Two guys are driving to the airport. Their upper radiator hose bursts, the car overheats, and they miss their flight. They get to the airport a few hours late and are able to catch the next plane. The plane crashes. Fintan Dunne headline: Pep Boys Implicated in Death of Innocent Travelers. If anyone could conceive such twisted logic, it would be Ms. Dunne. Without a defective radiator hose, they would have made it to the airport on time. Without a defective radiator hose they would not have been on the flight where the shoebomber detonated his loafers in the seat just behind the wing.
Do we have an official "enemies list"? If so, what do we do to them? Who is keeping track?
I will let you make some comments before I make additional on the record comments. Please don't be crazy. Think through your argument carefully. Some of this may appear on salon.com and we can perhaps help them get up to about 2 cents per share.
A) Go back to playing Mario Bros.
B) After you're finished, sit down and eat your peanut butter and jelly sandwich
C) I doubt you're old enough to "vote" for high school class president
What is yours?
I was referring to the first definition in the law dictionary, not the last one.
(After all, we're not on the high seas- or in the midst of an asset forfeiture proceeding.)
BARRATRY - The practice of instituting groundless judicial proceedings - a crime in a number of jurisdictions.
In old law French barat, baraterie, signifying robbery, deceit, fraud. In modern usage it may be defined as the habitual moving, exciting and maintaining suits and quarrels, either at law or otherwise.
A man cannot be indicted as a common barrator in respect of any number of false and groundless actions brought in his own right, nor for a single act in right of another; for that would not make him a common barrator.
Barratry, in this sense, is different from maintenance and champerty.
An attorney cannot be indicted for this crime merely for maintaining another in a groundless action.
BARRATOR - One who has been guilty of the offence of barratry. BARRATRY - Maritime Law, Crimes. A fraudulent act of the master or mariners, committed contrary to their duty as such, to the prejudice of the owners of the ship.
The act of Congress of April 30, 1790, s.8, punishes with death as piracy, 'any captain or mariner of any ship or other vessel who shall piratically and feloniously run away with such ship or vessel, or any goods or merchandize to the value of fifty dollars; or yield up such ship or vessel to any pirate or if any such seamen shall lay violent hands upon his commander, thereby to binder or prevent his fighting in defence of his ship or goods committed to his trust, or shall make a revolt in the said ship.'
Because something is not 'made right', does not mean its wrong. To do nothing and allow yourself to be killed is absolutely wrong. Nobody can argue otherwise.
Reconcile your weakness by understanding that to do nothing is wrong, and to do something [kill], is neither right or wrong, it just is.
Death is a fact of life...for all of us, and in many instances is a matter of choice by our actions[smoking cigarettes, eating habits, driving recklessly, doing nothing in the face of mortal danger, or perpetrating a crime that may result in ones death].
What is wrong with you? You are making up a foolish story. It's as if we have a direct hotline to John Ashcroft. News for you, genius. We don't. No FReeper contacted the feds, got the feds to suspect the son, so that the son was imprisoned, released, and killed. Until the last few days, no one here knew the name Nick Berg or Michael Berg. Michael proudly signed onto the ANSWER site and publicly identified himself and his company. ANSWER publicly displayed the names of those who endorsed their anti-American nonsense. It was cut and pasted and posted on FR. There were probably 10 pages of names, only a few of which were noticed. I contacted the Coast Guard to warn them of an active duty member who could have posed a danger to his comrades. Jameel had no business being part of what he hated when others' lives could depend on him. There was no way in hell he was going to jeopardize the life of my son-in-law or others who were serving their country. That's it.
re: why is there so much hatred here for people that feel differently about these issues?
I ask again, what is wrong with you? You speak of hatred and then dare to send me the following FReepmail --
Nick Berg
From curious123344 | 05/13/2004 8:27:32 AM PDT read
I just want want to congratulate you on contributing to Berg's death.
Hatred breeds hatred!
Hope the images haunt you forever.
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It is time for you to take back the ridiculous conspiracy statement that is a total lie and to apologize to me for your FReepmail. I'm waiting.
Now, leave me alone, punk.
Seems our resident malinformed iconoclast, johngalt, made a very similar supposition right here on this very thread:
Seems our boys caught an ANSWER fella and dropped him off in rival territory alla the LAPD circa Darryl Gates.
That's post 247, in case you're curious.
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