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Levin: Naked prisoners in lump on floor, soldiers apparently unconcerned. Concerned that conduct was partof organized and conscious process to extract info. Taguba report: witness to prisoners made to do thinks he would question morally; quoted mil int as "loosen the guy up for us" " make sure he gets the treatment."

Taguba report: Mil int interrogators actively requested the MP guards set phys and ment conditions for interrogation of witnesses; assignees directed to change facility procedures to specs of mil int.

What were the changes? Was it proper?

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Rummy: believes Fay investigations addressing those questions.

Myers confirms.

Levin: would you agree that those who authorizedd, etc. must be held responsible as well as those who acted?

Rummy: The pictures I've seen depict conduct that is so brutal, cruel, inhumane that anyone involved would have to be brought to justice.

Levin: How far up the chain?

Rummy: Exactly why investigation started. Anyone recommending that kind of behavior needs to be brought to justice.