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Fallujah pullback opportunity, not necessarily agreement to end fight: Abizaid (MUST READ!!!)
AFP ^ | Fri, Apr 30, 2004 | AFP

Posted on 04/30/2004 9:47:18 AM PDT by Eurotwit

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To: Peach
thanks Peach. You are invaluable.
41 posted on 04/30/2004 10:21:40 AM PDT by GmbyMan (John Kerry-America's first Flip Flopper Hip Hopper!)
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To: oceanview
IMHO, it is Bush's desire to not raise the US body count any higher than it already is for this month. Tomorrow begins a new month and the casulty count is reset. Also, after the complete failure of the Iraqi army and civil defense, they had to be "culled" of cowards and infiltrators. The past few days softened the terrorists up. The next few will finish them off.
42 posted on 04/30/2004 10:22:45 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: jpsb
the attrition rate of the insurgents, just from airpower and snipers alone, must be very high. they cannot re-supply.
43 posted on 04/30/2004 10:22:48 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Eurotwit
Sadr is trying to help us:

Iraqi Cleric: America Is Enemy of Islam (Sadr speaks )

44 posted on 04/30/2004 10:24:10 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: el_texicano
The quote is not from anywhere in the Koran (or Quran).
Chapter 9 verse 11 actually says "But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and we make the communications clear for a people who know."
45 posted on 04/30/2004 10:24:55 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
most of our losses are coming from car bombs and IEDs against patrols and checkpoints. air power and snipers don't result in many casualties, neither do Abrams tanks.

there is some other factor at work here.
46 posted on 04/30/2004 10:26:15 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Eurotwit; kellynla
I watching the briefing on C-SPAN , he had some great high quality charts, gave high level comments, we need to hear from the guys actually running the show in Fallujah to know what is going on. The Press had the callers on C-SPAN stirred up pretty well.
47 posted on 04/30/2004 10:27:11 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: el_texicano
pssst
48 posted on 04/30/2004 10:29:45 AM PDT by Michael Barnes
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To: Peach; backhoe
Excellent.
49 posted on 04/30/2004 10:31:15 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Peach
I pinged backhoe, he may have done one.
50 posted on 04/30/2004 10:33:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Gefreiter
...But if we're going to talk about perceptions and winning people's hearts and minds, which is really the point of this entire conflict, this Fallujah operation is a defeat.

we wimped out causa human shields-wise types predicted we wouldn't be able to 'gut it out' causa PC considerations-this isn't the way to instill respect by the 'diaper-heads'....

51 posted on 04/30/2004 10:34:07 AM PDT by 1234 (Border control or IMPEACHMENT)
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To: jpsb
I think you are totally wrong!
52 posted on 04/30/2004 10:35:18 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: oceanview
I think you are correct on that score, but there are lots of young men in the middle east that hate te USA, so the recruitment pool is large.

Which the Sunnis, back in charge of Fallujah and having earned the respect of the Marine commander with thier ferce resistance, I expect the terrorists to change their base of opperation. Bagdad?

53 posted on 04/30/2004 10:38:03 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: rhombus
I HAVE QURAN IN FRONT OF ME AND I CAN'T FIND THIS VERSET.SEEMS, LIKE IT DOESN'T EXIST IN QURAN.
54 posted on 04/30/2004 10:38:40 AM PDT by GRAZYNA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Ok, I might be, but why do you think we didn't take Fallujah? The commanders were pretty upfront about our objectives at the start of this operation, so what is your take?
55 posted on 04/30/2004 10:41:45 AM PDT by jpsb (Nominated 1994 "Worst writer on the net")
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To: elfman2; Eurotwit
Everyone needs to go over and read this:

Iraqi Snipers with special forces at work with Marines now in Falluhaj

56 posted on 04/30/2004 10:43:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: No Blue States
"But what scares me most is the majority of negative posts on FR today."

Yes, too many wobbly kids out here today.
57 posted on 04/30/2004 10:44:25 AM PDT by Gucho
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To: jpsb; kellynla; Dog; Dog Gone; NormsRevenge; Cap Huff
See above link.
58 posted on 04/30/2004 10:44:37 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Eurotwit
bmp
59 posted on 04/30/2004 10:46:28 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I keep telling you that the attack is coming this weekend. Bush will let slip the dogs of war tomorrow or Sunday at the latest.

Huh? Tell us more.... ;)

60 posted on 04/30/2004 10:47:55 AM PDT by Reborn
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