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To: monday
No. I simply pointed out that you have in common with the Taliban, the conviction that your moral beliefs are the absolute truth.

Ok, easy lesson as to why this is a real bad idea except as a way to illustrate a point.

"Thats what the Taliban say too."

Is what you posted, in reference to my assertion that morals are absolute. Who are the Taliban, and what are they primarily known for? Being autocratic murdering thugs. So throwing the Taliban out there is equating moral absolutism with autocratic murdering thugs. And no, actually the Taliban aren't moral absolutists at all. They aren't exactly moral relativists either, except in a wierd sort of reversed way.

What you are really saying is that you view moral absolutism as being autocratic and brutal in nature. It isn't. There are millions of moral absolutists across this nation, and we are one of the most peaceful nations on the face of the globe. So that equation is just so much garbage too.

143 posted on 04/22/2004 1:39:33 PM PDT by hopespringseternal (People should be banned for sophistry.)
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To: hopespringseternal
"What you are really saying is that you view moral absolutism as being autocratic and brutal in nature. It isn't."

It is, but only if the moral absolutists happen to control the government. Can you imagine a scenario in which a moral absolutist would allow something which they considered immoral to be practiced if they were in charge of making the laws and enforcing them? I can't.

Whether or not they are brutal depends largely on their morals, but I believe we can count on them to be autocratic. Every theocracy since the beginning of time has been autocratic. After all, what is the point of knowing the "one true way", if you cannot force those less fortunate to follow the "path of enlightenment"?

You said "And no, actually the Taliban aren't moral absolutists at all."

They may not agree among themselves just exactly what those moral absolutes are, but they are far more consistent in their moral absolutism than you, and your millions of fellow moral absolutists, are in this country.
144 posted on 04/22/2004 2:10:07 PM PDT by monday
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