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Gorelick holds the smoking gun
Heraldtribune.com ^ | April 19, 2004 | Richard M. Swier

Posted on 04/19/2004 7:40:52 AM PDT by joinedafterattack

The 9/11 commission may have found the smoking gun that prevented the FBI and CIA from "connecting the dots." The smoking gun is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act created in 1978. The FISA, in and of itself, meant the "old national intelligence service in place on Sept. 11, 2001, was destined to fail," according to testimony Tuesday by Attorney General John Ashcroft.

To add fuel to the fire, a memo dated March 4, 1995, raised the bar or "wall" that kept our FBI and CIA from talking and sharing information, which directly impeded on-going terrorist investigations. This memo was implemented by Jamie Gorelick, a 9/11 commission member and former deputy attorney general under the Clinton administration.

The wall created by the memo "specifically impeded the investigation into Zacarias Moussaoui, Khalid al- Midhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi," Ashcroft testified. After the FBI arrested Moussaoui, agents wanted to access his computer, but because of the Gorelick memo they feared doing so. Because of this and other impediments caused by the wall, 9/11 was destined to happen.

As pointed out by an FBI investigator referring to the wall in a memo to FBI headquarters, "Whatever has happened to this -- someday someone will die -- and wall or not -- the public will not understand why we were not more effective and throwing every resource we had at certain 'problems.'"

It turns out we have found the enemy and it is us. The post-Vietnam, anti-war and anti-government hysteria led to FISA. Deputy Attorney General Gorelick added new and ever more onerous restrictions to it. We have found the smoking gun. She sits as a member of the 9/11 commission.

End of investigation.

Richard M. Swier


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911commission; gorelick; gorelickgate
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1 posted on 04/19/2004 7:40:52 AM PDT by joinedafterattack
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To: joinedafterattack
BTTT
2 posted on 04/19/2004 7:45:16 AM PDT by b4its2late (Hillary, it is bad to suppress laughter; it goes back down and spreads to your hips.)
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To: joinedafterattack; BartMan1; Nailbiter
The smoking gun is the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act created in 1978.

Hmm. Who was President in 1978?

3 posted on 04/19/2004 7:49:02 AM PDT by IncPen (Proud member of the Half Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: joinedafterattack
Memo March 5th 1995 was the smoking gun.

PDB - Ausust 6th 1996 the finger on the trigger.
4 posted on 04/19/2004 7:49:41 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (The word system implies they have done something the same way at least twice)
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To: joinedafterattack
"It turns out we have found the enemy and it is us."

Truer words than these have never been spoken!

5 posted on 04/19/2004 7:51:31 AM PDT by Bigun (IRSsucks@getridof it.com)
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To: joinedafterattack
This is just crazy! How long can the press ignore this tremendous conflict of interest? Gorelick is one big shit sandwich and they better start eating.
6 posted on 04/19/2004 7:53:55 AM PDT by TBall
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To: IncPen
Liverlips Jimmah Cahtah. He's running for sainthood now, I hear.
7 posted on 04/19/2004 7:56:21 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: joinedafterattack
We need to praise Ashcroft for pulling the trigger on this publically.
8 posted on 04/19/2004 8:03:10 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: joinedafterattack
Great article. Thanks.
9 posted on 04/19/2004 8:05:46 AM PDT by kitkat
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To: TBall
What an image -- and right before lunch, too!!!! ROFL!!!
10 posted on 04/19/2004 8:07:49 AM PDT by Polyxene (Never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room.- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: TBall
Open wide, GORE-LICK!!!
11 posted on 04/19/2004 8:08:37 AM PDT by Polyxene (Never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room.- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: Bigun
["It turns out we have found the enemy and it is us.". . ."Truer words than these have never been spoken!]

I would offer that the more true would be/is. . ."we have found the enemy and it is the Liberals."

. . .and of course, we have known that all along.

12 posted on 04/19/2004 8:16:32 AM PDT by cricket (The Democrats and the terrorists have a common enemy. . .)
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To: joinedafterattack
I want full disclosure of the Gorelick phone calls that seem to have stopped the TWA800 and OKC investigations!
13 posted on 04/19/2004 8:18:03 AM PDT by Sender (Gorelick Knew!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
While I would LOVE to blame this on Carter, he really had no choice on this - the public was demanding (as too the Congress) that this act be passed. He probably supported it, but then again so did Reagan & Bush I. President Reagan actually "worsened" the situation with several executive orders.

Up until 9/11 - NO ONE would have dreamed of questioning the FISA Act. The author is right - WE did this to ourselves.

Enough headhunting already! Let's find a way to make it work AND protect our rights - it CAN be done.
14 posted on 04/19/2004 8:19:18 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: TBall; joinedafterattack; Polyxene
The 9/11 commission lacks all credibility.
Commissioner Gorelick has no eligibility
To be on any commission
With a better legacy mission
Like you sandwich, it lacks all edibility.

~<8o
15 posted on 04/19/2004 8:24:20 AM PDT by Cyber Ninja (His legacy is a stain on the dress.)
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To: TBall
They have been ignoring this particular law and its implications for years. I read about it not long after 911--in Human Events, I believe. Never saw or heard about it in mainstream.

vaudine
16 posted on 04/19/2004 8:33:30 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Walkingfeather
If Condy could have pulled that during her public testemony it would have been more effective!!
17 posted on 04/19/2004 8:34:34 AM PDT by observer5
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To: joinedafterattack
"To add fuel to the fire, a memo dated March 4, 1995, raised the bar or "wall" that kept our FBI and CIA from talking and sharing information, which directly impeded on-going terrorist investigations."

Even worse...it built a wall within the FBI, itself, that prohibited its intelligence gathers from sharing information with its criminal investigators. People who worked in the same buildings weren't allowed to share information with each other. It was planned failure from the start.
18 posted on 04/19/2004 8:42:30 AM PDT by cwb (Kerry: Sadr is a legitimate voice in Iraq being silenced by America..and Hamas are sorta terrorists.)
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To: joinedafterattack
How much longer will this commission be questioning people?

Or maybe a more simple question is:
Are they working on any sort of deadline for the results of their "investigation"?
19 posted on 04/19/2004 8:48:07 AM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1 (Let's turn Iraqi sand into some useful glass!)
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To: Sender
I want full disclosure of the Gorelick phone calls that seem to have stopped the TWA800 and OKC investigations!

Especially as Gorelick wrote her terror facilitating memo on March 4, 1995, a month and a half before OKC. I would certainly never imply that she MEANT to grease the way for the Islamic contingent of the bombers to get away with it, but she did accomplish exactly that.

Later president Scumbag said that the bombing resurrected his failing presidency. But that certainly does NOT mean it was intended. It's just that it couldn't have worked better if it had been planned.

20 posted on 04/19/2004 8:48:30 AM PDT by Sal
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