Bid to license illegal entrants axed (Jeb Bush - Fla)

Miami Herald ^ | 17 April 2004

[cyborg]

AWWWWWWWWWWWW TOO BAD!!!!!!

[Thermalseeker]

AWWWWWWWWWWWW TOO BAD!!!!!!

What the heck is the matter with all these politico's supporting the licensing of ILLEGALS? Tennessee started licensing illegals a couple of years ago and now you can't swing a dead cat without hitting one. What part of guarding the borders do they not understand?

[cyborg]

I have no idea. You can't have a war on terror without protecting the borders.

[TomGuy]

What is wrong with the Bush family that they think they have to REWARD the ILLEGAL aliens?????????

Why don't they wake UP?

[seastay]

The drivers licence issue is bogus: Since 1949, when the United Nations sanctioned its use, the International Driver's License (IDL) has allowed International Travelers to drive freely throughout the world. They do not need US drivers licences, they just need to show their passport to get an IDL !

[FITZ]

It is bogus --- in many of these states, it is perfectly acceptable for foreigners to present their own drivers licenses issued by their own countries. Here an illegal who has liability insurance and a Mexican drivers license is fine as far as the driving on our roads and it's not even likely that the police will check for immigration status --- and that's likely the case in Florida as well.

[NonValueAdded]

ping

[FITZ]

What is wrong with the Bush family that they think they have to REWARD the ILLEGAL aliens?????????

The so-called hispanic vote has to be one of the primary reasons --- or else certain friendships they hold with certain Mexican elite. I don't see any other kinds of names --- like Irish or Haitian or Chinese in any of these articles about drivers licenses. I don't think they'd be given out evenly to all groups of illegals who might be here --- only one preferred group.

[Bigg Red]

Garcia argues that many unlicensed immigrants drive anyway, without insurance...

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So arrest then deport these baldwins. Is that such a difficult concept? (And what was Jeb thinking, anyway?)

Democrats: Yeah, but if we deport them how can we get them to vote for us?

[DustyMoment]

Garcia argues that many unlicensed immigrants drive anyway, without insurance, and that licensing them would make the country's roads safer, while giving federal authorities more information about potential terrorists.

Ok, I'll bite - how will licensing people who are in fundamental violation of our laws and loathe to learn the English language so they can read pesky things like road signs and stuff going to make our roads safer?

Resistance to Garcia's bill was strong in the Legislature, even after Gov. Jeb Bush endorsed it. He surprised some observers by backing the plan, saying it would not be a reward for those who flout immigration laws, but rather an acknowledgment that people already here should not not be treated as ``lepers to society.''

Dead wrong, Jeb. They violated our laws - they have earned the right to be treated as "lepers to society." If these criminals don't deserve to be treated as the "lepers of society", how do you feel about murderers, rapists, child molesters, robbers, etc. - IOW, other criminals who have flaunted our laws?

[Bigg Red]

No, c'mon they're no lepers to society. Lepers were sent to colonies because their desease might spread to others. These people are parasites sucking the lifeblood out of our economy, threatening the rights of legal immigrants, spreading diseases like t.b., and opening us up to moreterrorist strikes. That's far more danger than lepers would bring, Jeb.

[summer]

I like Gov Bush for many reasons, especially for his dedication to improve education in FL, but the more I think about this whole illegal immigration/license issue, the more wrong I think he was on it.

There is nothing "safe" to me about inviting more illegals into this country, and then providing them with a document that further blurs the line as to their legality.

I am glad the FL sheriffs spoke up immediately and derided this proposed bill. BTW, FL law enforcement supported Gov Bush in all his runs for governor, and I think Gov Bush would have really suffered in the eyes of every voter in this state had he lost the support of law enforcement.

It seems to me the only citizens who supported this proposal were employers who benefit by cheap labor in hiring illegals and employers should not be doing that in the first place.

[FITZ]

Garcia argues that many unlicensed immigrants drive anyway, without insurance...

Is there anyone foolish enough to believe that if an illegal doesn't pass a background check or a road test (if given) and doesn't receive a drivers license that they will voluntarily stay off our roads for not having one when they already haven't been doing that? Or that even though they can get liability insurance now but don't because that goes with the car not the driver, that handing them a drivers license will magically inspire them to want to buy insurance?

[seastay]

"magically inspire them to want to buy insurance?"


The legislators in California are not that foolish, they have been tying to pass a bill that would force tax payers to pay for their insurance !

[Iscool]

Being an optimist is one thing but when are people going to wake up to the fact that the agenda of the people is not the same as the agenda of the gov't???

What part of guarding the borders do they not understand?

They understand perfectly...Especially the Bushes...New World Order...Thousand Points of Light...Globalism...Ring a bell???

[FITZ]

That's not surprising at all ---- the immigrants are more outrageous in their demands --- first they say they come to pick lettuce, only take the jobs Americans don't want, then next thing their kids are demanding Americans give them a free college education because they don't want to pick lettuce --- not even to put themselves through college. It's insane what they think is due them just for breaking immigration laws.

[sweetliberty]

"Garcia argues that many unlicensed immigrants drive anyway, without insurance, and that licensing them would make the country's roads safer, while giving federal authorities more information about potential terrorists."

Yeah, and many rapists rape anyway and many thieves steal anyway....all without regard for the law. That is what makes them criminals. Let's try this again....ILLEGAL aliens are individuals from other countries who have no regard for our laws, therefore they are CRIMINALS. Should we start licensing sex offenders as well, rather than requiring them to register? Should we license thieves instead of jailing them? (Or maybe we could just get them jobs with the IRS or simply elect them to Congress as democRATs)

[The Radical Capitalist]

"FAIR, when lobbying in the Capitol, flashed mock Florida driver's licenses bearing the name of Sept. 11 ringleader Mohamed Atta, and handed out leaflets calling Garcia's bill a ``slap in the face to 9/11 family members.''

The leaflets did not mention that all 19 Sept. 11 hijackers entered the country legally -- with visas."

The last sentence is the most interesting to me. The writer of the news article exercised some judgment and included a fact that has strong bearing on the FAIR leaflet. In this case, although I don't believe in giving illegals driver's licenses, I think it was apt.

But how likely are you to find the reporter presenting a fact that contradicts a liberal position in a newstory?

For example, when liberal after liberal accused Bush of saying there was an "imminent threat" from Iraq, how many journalists bothered to reference Bush's State of the Union speech where he said the exact opposite? Anyone? Bueller? Anyone?

[Penner]

Under Garcia's bill, license applicants would have had to submit to background checks in Florida and in their home countries. The state would have relied on consular officials to verify identity and provide criminal histories from abroad. Garcia argues that many unlicensed immigrants drive anyway, without insurance, and that licensing them would make the country's roads safer, while giving federal authorities more information about potential terrorists. The sheriff's association, however, said it ''wouldn't have any confidence'' in background coming from countries that lack sophisticated criminal history databases.

California would fall for this ruse hook, line, and sinker. Bump to the sheriff's association in Florida.