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US Intelligence in 1995 Said Attack on U.S. Possible
Reuters ^ | April 16, 2004 | Tabassum Zakaria

Posted on 04/16/2004 3:37:37 PM PDT by tomball

Edited on 06/29/2004 7:10:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. intelligence report in 1995 raised the possibility of a foreign terrorist attack inside the United States and a 1997 update named Osama bin Laden, U.S. intelligence officials said on Friday in trying to offset a highly critical report from the Sept. 11 commission.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 1995; 911commission; gorelick
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81 posted on 04/16/2004 11:56:33 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Nita Nupress
Have we determined the exact motivation for Gorelick writing her March 4, 1995 memo yet? I haven't read that entire memo yet.

A letter was sent to the 911 commission. The letter, dated April 5, 2004, talks about Ramsey Yousef and a New York mobster named Scorpa. I think the memo is related to what the letter describes--that the government was given information that was either ignored, hidden, denied, who knows--and the letter and other related information can be found in the history of my comments.

The US attorney's office in New York was using Scarpa as an informant in prison. There was a point, described in FBI 302s, in which Yousef, who was flown over the World Trade Center on his way to trial or prison, said that in American airplanes the terrorists have bombs any time they want them. Fox News mentioned the "Intelligence Timeline" that was an attachment to the letter. Even more curious is that certain FBI 302s are unavialable. We also learn that Flight 800 was a terrorist act, that at least two other airline crashes were terrorist related, and that we, the American public, can really do nothing more than heckle the actors on the stage called the 911 commission, while those with the better seats approve, so far, of the production. The script to this play was written beforehand and I will hazard a guess that not even history will learn the truth.

82 posted on 04/17/2004 1:31:03 AM PDT by WhiteyAppleseed (Either she did her master's business or she was on a frolic of her own. Business is good.)
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To: WhiteyAppleseed
Fox News mentioned the "Intelligence Timeline" that was an attachment to the letter.

Actually, that is misleading. Last Sunday, Fox News mentioned Scorpa and Rebecca Gomez talked about information contained in that 'timeline'. No mention was made of Flight 800. I stumbled onto this information while looking for info on Ron Brown's death. Those links I provided offer tantalizing clues to not only his death, but to the OKC boming, the anthrax issues, and more.

But I suspect this is only a plot twist. As I said, the plot to this play has been scripted beforehand, and unless one of the actors is actually a man pretending to be a woman in the play pretending to be another man......

83 posted on 04/17/2004 1:36:04 AM PDT by WhiteyAppleseed (Either she did her master's business or she was on a frolic of her own. Business is good.)
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To: WhiteyAppleseed
Have we determined the exact motivation for Gorelick writing her March 4, 1995 memo yet? I haven't read that entire memo yet.

And the memo could also be related to the trial of McVeigh. Was the Oklahoma Corporation Commission located in the Murrah Building?

84 posted on 04/17/2004 2:00:41 AM PDT by WhiteyAppleseed (Either she did her master's business or she was on a frolic of her own. Business is good.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
1999: Reno says China campaign funds probe 'was not impaired'( By the Wall )

That title alone supports my theory that the Wall was primarily for the purpose of hiding illegal foreign fundraising activities.

85 posted on 04/17/2004 4:16:22 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the state-appointed shrink is our friend.Jack Handy)
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To: tomball
The commission and this report coming out now is incredible. There were terrorist experts on Fox and other news stations a number of times preceding 9-11, well before Bush was in office, talking about the good possibility of terror attacks on U.S. soil. Someone even wrote a book about it.

Unfortunately, these interviews were fill-ins on the news between the Monica and impeachment stories. It appears the election/chad fiasco has also fallen by the wayside in the timeline of events. Everyone was too preoccupied with the antics of the former administration and trying to restore some assemblence of order to our government.

There were reports long before 9-11, but everyone was too distracted, including ourselves, with the national soap opera that was playing out. Has the commission talked about the first days of the Bush administration, when they had to clean up the offices after previous staff members trashed them?

Collectively, our country was distracted. We'll never know if 9-11 could have actually been prevented. However, it was all the distraction that caused us to be so dysfunctional.

86 posted on 04/17/2004 7:15:43 AM PDT by World'sGoneInsane
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To: World'sGoneInsane
The Inman Report that came out in 1985 told us what this commission is telling us. How foolish was it to stack sleeping Marines up in a building in a war zone? Future commissions will tell us the same damn thing--the terrorist bastards need only get lucky once and if we think we're immune we've got our heads stuck so far up our arsch-holes we should all be dancing around, clutching at the seat of our pants, Ach Du Lieber! Mein Arsch!

Even now there are probably so many terrorist cells in this country that the likelihood of something catastrophic happening is just a matter of time and place, their time, their place of choosing, to strike when they want.

87 posted on 04/17/2004 8:59:26 AM PDT by WhiteyAppleseed (Abteilung Der Heimatsicherheit. Because Prussian schooling is our way of life.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
That's a lot of good information on that thread. Great job!
88 posted on 04/17/2004 9:04:59 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: ovrtaxt
Thanks for the ping!
89 posted on 04/17/2004 9:07:13 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Auntie Mame
Check your mail.

And those are all excellent questions, btw.
90 posted on 04/17/2004 9:21:48 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: WhiteyAppleseed
But I suspect this is only a plot twist. As I said, the plot to this play has been scripted beforehand, and unless one of the actors is actually a man pretending to be a woman in the play pretending to be another man......

I suspect you're right. There for a brief second I wondered if Bush was finally uncovering Clinton's OKC cover-up, but then I realized that would require Ashcroft to explain why he was in such a hurry to execute McVeigh. (sigh)

91 posted on 04/17/2004 9:24:33 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: WhiteyAppleseed
Even now there are probably so many terrorist cells in this country that the likelihood of something catastrophic happening is just a matter of time and place, their time, their place of choosing, to strike when they want.

Hopefully, we are using our resources better. However, the commission created to investigate 9-11 and offer some insight on how to prevent such a thing is now another distraction. The people politicizing this need a reality check. They are causing the same type of distraction now that probably left us unprepared in the past.

We don't need distractions now. We need clear thinking from those that have the most information. We don't need Monday morning quarterbacking. We need to use our resources for what we are dealing with now or may lie ahead.

92 posted on 04/17/2004 9:52:07 AM PDT by World'sGoneInsane
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To: ovrtaxt
Please add me to your OKC-9/11 ping list. Thanks!
93 posted on 04/17/2004 3:25:53 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: ntnychik
You're in.
94 posted on 04/17/2004 3:52:24 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the state-appointed shrink is our friend.Jack Handy)
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To: WhiteyAppleseed
Whitey, can you link us to some of those documents you just cited? The Yousef comment, the unavailable 302s, the timeline?

Your theory that it's all scripted and carefully protected only has one flaw-- the political infighting and potential exploitation, however slight, between the Reps and Dems. Ashcroft's introduction of the Gorlick memo FINALLY provided some connection, however slight, between the WTC, OKC and 911 attacks. This was a result of Ashcroft going on the offensive, (or defensive, perhaps) and the good ol' internet doing the rest.

Again, I'll ask you as I have everyone else, why isn't the Bush admin trumpeting OKC as justification for Iraq? At this point, of course, it seems they have lost the prime opportunity to throw it out there, as they chose to hang their hats on the WMD angle. (~Doh!~) But those stolen FBI files, hmmmm. Funny how everybody is so well behaved, with this 'new tone' and all.
95 posted on 04/17/2004 4:11:29 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the state-appointed shrink is our friend.Jack Handy)
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To: ovrtaxt
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1115244/posts?q=1&&page=101

The letter sans "intelligence timeline" is at post #111--it's curious that that section of FR has something that makes a small red circle appear on my computer screen, disappearing when I click onto another page. Be uh-fraid, be very uuuh-fraid!

I think the link to other info is there, beginning at #111. At the forensic-intelligence link, fink the Adobe PDF files that are on the left hand of the screen in blue writing. Did I say that I found this site whilst strolling through the web looking for info on Ron Brown's death--or motive for his death, actually'd be more accurate.

96 posted on 04/17/2004 7:24:59 PM PDT by WhiteyAppleseed (Abteilung Der Heimatsicherheit. Because Prussian schooling is our way of life.)
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To: ovrtaxt
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1115387/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1115589/posts?page=51,9

http://www.forensic-intelligence.org/spd.htm

Once at the above, you have to navigate the site to find the Adobe files. Like this one that I cut and paste.

Forensic Intelligence International, LLC the Kauth house, 318 Cooper Avenue, Hancock, Michigan 49930, Tel. 906-370-9993
151 Moore Street SE, Crawfordville, Georgia 30631, Tel. 706-456-2696 706-294-9993 (mobile), 603-452-8208 (fax & voice mail), sdresch@forensic-intelligence.org

Thursday, April 8, 2004

The Gerard Van Hoorelbeke Louis Freeh Scarpa File Transcribed letter (2/15/01) from Gerard Van Hoorelbeke to Louis Freeh (facsimile of original follows):

Director Freeh (FBI) 2/15/01

File # 265A-NY-258172 “Private and Confidential” I had the rare opportunity of inspecting the above FBI 302 forms, that was furnished to me by infomatant Gregory Scarpa who worked this case for the FBI. At any rate, I also had the opportunity to discuss this case file with the person it involves (Ramsey Yousef). After I showed him the file, and after many conversations he uttered in disgust “That don’t mean shit, soon “Bin Laden” will use your own planes as bombs to take down the W.T.C.” Quote to the best of my knowledge .... I forward this sensitive information to you, because I believe it is of national concern, whereas the threat appears to attack the very soul of our nation. I am writing to you like this, because I think the B.O.P. Would botch this investigation, if any, and in view of our personal difficulties I still believe this matter deserves your immediate attention. I trust you will follow these allegations up with great interest, and with all the resources the FBI has to offer the citizens of America, and their childrens future. The above 302 forms disturbed me, to the point where I question sending you this information, nevertheless I can only hope you do the right thing, and not wait until something terrible happens before you act. I must admit the above statement is foreign to me, because I did not take the statement any further. P.S. I am the only inmate that had Gerard Van Hoorelbeke access to (Ramsey Yousef) on a daily 10376-029 basis ..... I’ll explain this situation to U.S.P. MAX, P.O. Box 8500 you, if need be. Florence, Colorado 81226-8500 : Reply address/phone FI2

This file is 47 pages long. The intelligence timeline that accompanied the letter written by the organization was 7 pages long--and it is here that there as unavailable FBI 302s for a time immediately after the downing of Flight 800.

97 posted on 04/17/2004 7:43:00 PM PDT by WhiteyAppleseed (Abteilung Der Heimatsicherheit. Because Prussian schooling is our way of life.)
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To: WhiteyAppleseed; ScaniaBoy; Cooter; eyespysomething; B4Ranch; Alamo-Girl; Triple; MJY1288; ...
Some peripheral info, for further research:(for clarification, see previous posts by WhiteyAppleseed)

LINK TO 8/6/01 PDB: ""Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."see Post #111.

Forensic INtelligence.org Some REALLY interesting stuff

GVH/Freeh Scarpa File Interesting comments by Ramsi Yousef

98 posted on 04/17/2004 7:55:41 PM PDT by ovrtaxt ( Communism has bowed the knee to Jesus. *** Allah is next.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Thanks for the links!
99 posted on 04/17/2004 7:58:05 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: ovrtaxt
Interesting links! Thank you.
100 posted on 04/17/2004 8:17:22 PM PDT by auboy (The 9-11 Commission ain't worth a bucket of warm spit. Make that half a bucket.)
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