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LINK TO 8/6/01 PDB: ""Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."
FoxNews ^ | April 10, 2004 | White House Staff

Posted on 04/10/2004 3:50:16 PM PDT by RobFromGa

Edited on 04/22/2004 12:39:34 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Q: Why was this PDB prepared?

DCI Tenet has already described the genesis of this PDB item in a letter to the 9-11 Commission dated March 26, 2004. This PDB item was prepared in response to questions President Bush asked his PDB briefer. The President had seen previous intelligence reports about possible al-Qa'ida threats to U.S. targets outside the United States. The President had asked whether any of the information pointed to a possible attack inside the United States. When this PDB item was presented to the President on August 6, 2001, his PDB briefer told him that it was prepared in response to the President's previous questions.


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To: JeanS
PDB PDF Mirrored HERE
101 posted on 04/10/2004 5:01:18 PM PDT by ChadGore (Mach 7 !)
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To: Enterprise; Bryan24; FourtySeven; Travis McGee; MeekOneGOP; OrthodoxPresbyterian; TrueBeliever9; ...
I was listening to the Fox news talkies, and they repeated the point that the FBI was NOT conducting the investigations.

SOMEONE told the president in an official report to him that there were 70 investigations going on when there were NONE taking place.

The President of the entire U S of A says, "I want a briefing on Bin Laden's ability to strike inside the US." (Which is a great initiative on his part that NO ONE is pointing out with the degree of gotcha that they used to besmirch him)

Some staff weenie someplace was asked the right question about the terrorist's activities inside the US: "Don't just tell me the problems; tell me what we're doing about these terrorist connections inside the US!" So they respond to their boss...with info that'll go inside a report to the President of the entire U S of A .... with either a CYOA lie or totally inaccurate info.

Who would have gathered that info? Could it possibly have been Richard Clarke...after all he was counter-terror central, wasn't he?

Someone, though, either GOT or GAVE "Grossly Wrong or Grossly Untruthful" info to the president.



102 posted on 04/10/2004 5:01:48 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: LADY J
That the widows betray their dead never seems to occur to them in their selfish pursuit of celebrity and spewing of venom towards the president.
103 posted on 04/10/2004 5:03:14 PM PDT by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: Nita Nupress
Thanks for that replay - I remember reading Mona's column - and I was stunned.
104 posted on 04/10/2004 5:03:30 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: nightowl
"The liberal media are going to do everything they can to bring this president down, even if they have to lie and deceive. This should concern us all."

Sad. But true.

The greatest enemies of the Republic are, in descending order of importance, a.) radical Islamism, b.) the mainstream media and c.) the Democrat party.

For all intents and purposes, b.) and c.) might as well be allied with a.).

105 posted on 04/10/2004 5:07:13 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: RobFromGa
CNN Headline News did not sensationalize the contents of this PDB in the update I just saw. There's no "there there" and I don't think the media can distort this document enough to help their man Kerry. CNN Headline News didn't even try.
106 posted on 04/10/2004 5:07:19 PM PDT by Semi Civil Servant
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To: RobFromGa
I just surfed CNBC, CNN, Headline News and FoxNews at the top of the hour (8:00 Eastern) and none of the news readers spent anything resembling an amount of time on this story commensurate with the hype generated by it. It is a non-starter!
107 posted on 04/10/2004 5:07:44 PM PDT by Chunga
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To: FourtySeven
"...Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations forhijackings or other types of attacks..."

The dems cannot say anything really, but their willing puppets in the lamestream media will give them air and print time anyway.

More importantly, notice the "since that time" clause in this quote from the PDB which references a time period beginning with 1998. As Condi so well stated, the document is an historical document.

108 posted on 04/10/2004 5:08:57 PM PDT by Donna Lee Nardo
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To: avital2
OOOOOPS; that 's right: July 5, 2001. OTOH, the FBI has not been well-led for a long time.

I could make this into an indictment of the left: the FBI was neutered on purpose by the Church and Pike Committees. The old FBI was on to the domestic threat from the left.

So, maybe they will just settle for taking terrorism away from the FBI and forming this MI5-type agency? Let the FBI catch bank robbers and find abducted kids. The FBI is threatened: McFarlane is on FNC right now praising the FBI. He is highlighting *structural problems* and segued to the CIA in about 5 words. More finger-pointing.
109 posted on 04/10/2004 5:09:46 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: OldFriend
"That the widows betray their dead never seems to occur to them in their selfish pursuit of celebrity and spewing of venom towards the president."

They got their settlement money and are probably hoping to star in a movie or they might even write a book. Greed does funny things to people!

110 posted on 04/10/2004 5:10:59 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: WhiteyAppleseed
http://www.forensic-intelligence.org/

This letter, online at the link above, is marked urgent and confidential.

Monday, April 5, 2004 Thomas H. Kean, Chairman
Lee H. Hamilton, Vice Chairman
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States
301 7th Street, SW
Room 5125
Washington, DC 20407

Re: Pre-September 2001 FBI and Dept. of Justice Intelligence on Terrorism (R. Yousef)

Dear Chairman Kean and Vice Chairman Hamilton:

Our monitoring of the Commission’s hearings indicates that significant intelligence concerning the terrorist threat to the United States obtained between 1996 and early 2001 by various components of the U.S. Department of Justice has not been provided to the Commission.

This intelligence was provided to agents of the New York office of the FBI and senior prosecutors with the offices of the U.S. Attorneys for the Southern and Eastern Districts of New York by an informant, Gregory Scarpa, Jr., who developed a close personal relationship with Ramzi Ahmed Yousef while Yousef and Scarpa were incarcerated at the Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) in New York in 1996 and 1997, with supplemental information provided in 2000 by Scarpa to an official of the U.S. Bureau of Prisons after he was transferred to the Administrative Maximum Security (ADMAX) Penitentiary in Florence Colorado, to which Yousef had already been transferred and where both currently remain. In early 2001 another inmate of Florence ADMAX attempted to transmit much of the information developed by Scarpa to the director of the FBI, the President of the United States and the Attorney General.1

We first became aware of this intelligence when, for purposes entirely unrelated to terrorism, we met with Scarpa at Florence ADMAX in March 2003. In the course of these meetings Scarpa provided to us his contemporaneous (1996-97) handwritten notes of his conversations with Yousef and his terrorist codefendants2 and copies of FBI Forms 302 (informant reports) recounting the information which he had provided to agents of the FBI.3

1 We cannot, of course, confirm that these mailings, made by Gerard Van Hoorelbeke, in fact left the prison or reached their intended recipients. Van Hoorelbeke remains incarcerated at Florence ADMAX (Reg. No. 10376-029).

2 Scarpa reported conversations with Yousef and with Yousef’s codefendants, Wali Khan Amin Shah, Abdul Hakim Murad and Eyad Ismoil. Many of these conversations referenced a person identified by the terrorists as “Bojinga,” whom we believe to be Osama Bin Laden.

3 During his incarceration at the MCC, Scarpa was regularly debriefed by an agent of the FBI who, using the alias “Susan Schwartz,” posed as a paralegal employed by Scarpa’s attorney, Larry J. Silverman. In addition to these reports, Scarpa, utilizing a mini-camera provided by the warden of the MCC, provided the FBI with photographs of documents (“kites”) which Yousef shared with him. Also, with the assistance of Scarpa (acting on behalf of the FBI) Yousef was able to make telephone calls, monitored by the FBI, to active (unincarcerated) members of his terrorist networks via a “patch-through” phone accessed from MCC.

- 2 -

The intelligence provided by Scarpa included specific threats to U.S. airlines, the identification of countries (e.g., England) through which terrorists were entering the United States and testing U.S. security procedures, instructions for smuggling explosive chemicals and detonators (including hiding these in the heels of shoes), and formulas for explosives and for the production of phosgene and mustard gases. Yousef revealed to Scarpa his strong interest in obtaining blank U.S. passports which “his people would only use for one trip to board the planes to be hijacked.” Further intelligence laid out a plan to videotape the killings of hijacking victims, with distribution of these tapes to the media.4

One very serious missed opportunity to disrupt a terrorist network here in the United States prior to September 11, 2001, involved Yousef’s agreement to meeting in New York between Scarpa’s associates (who would have been disguised FBI agents) and four active (unincarcerated) terrorists. This meeting never took place because the cognizant FBI agents and assistant U.S. attorneys refused to agree to Yousef’s demand that $3,000 be provided to the terrorists.

It should be noted that Scarpa provided this assistance to the FBI at considerable risk not only to himself but also to members of his family, whose address he was compelled to provide to Yousef to enhance his credibility.

We have identified the following officials as having been directly involved with Scarpa in his role as an informant, as summarized in the attached “Scarpa-Yousef Intelligence Timeline”:5

New York Office of the FBI
. Susan Schwartz (alias)
. Pat White
. James Kallstrom

U.S. Attorneys’ Offices
. AUSA Michael Garcia (EDNY)
. AUSA Patrick Fitzgerald (EDNY)
. AUSA Valerie Caproni (EDNY)
. U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White (SDNY)

Metropolitan Correctional Center (New York)
. Warden R.M. Reish

Administrative Maximum Secuity Penitentiary, Florence, Colorado
. Mr. Manly (SIS)

4 Scarpa’s intelligence anticipates “shoe bomber” Richard Reed, the authorization for the 9/11 attacks given by Yousef's uncle, Kahlid Shaikh Mohammed, Mohammed Atta’s and Al Qaeda’s English connections, the single-use passports employed to board the airplanes hijacked on 9/11, and the videotaped death in Pakistan of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl.

5 The office of the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York was initially informed of Scarpa’s contacts with Yousef at the MCC and his willingness to serve as an informant by his attorney, Larry J. Silverman (46 Trinity Place, New York 10006; 212-425-1616), who remained informed of Scarpa’s activities on behalf of the government.

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Although the information provided by Scarpa appears to have been fully documented, especially in Forms 302 prepared by the New York office of the FBI, we do not know if this information was disseminated to other agencies with responsibility for the prevention of terrorist attacks on the United States.

We understand that AUSA Patrick Fitzgerald (EDNY), in a later (sealed) court filing, attested to the credibility, accuracy and value of the terrorism intelligence provided by Scarpa. However, at the time of Scarpa’s sentencing AUSA Valerie Caproni denigrated Scarpa’s credibility as an informant. Apparently, Scarpa’s credibility was perceived to pose a threat in the context of serious questions which had been raised concerning the informant relationship of Scarpa’s father, Gregory Scarpa, Sr., with FBI Supervisory Special Agent R. Lindley DeVecchio, the revelation of which might place in jeopardy a number of convictions secured by the office of the U.S. Attorney (EDNY). This latter matter, entirely unrelated to terrorism, remains a subject of continuing, independent investigation.

We strongly advise that the Commission fully examine the terrorism intelligence secured by the government through the informant services of Gregory Scarpa, Jr., and assess the extent to which it was appropriately utilized to reduce the terrorist threat to the United States.

Respectfully submitted,
Angela Clemente Stephen P. Dresch, Ph.D.
Santrea_143.2@juno.com 706-294-9993

Principal witness: Gregory Scarpa, Jr.
Reg. No. 10099-050
ADX Florence
P.O. Box 8500
5880 State Highway 67 South
Florence, Colorado 81226
719-784-9464
Attachment: Scarpa-Yousef Intelligence Timeline

111 posted on 04/10/2004 5:11:12 PM PDT by WhiteyAppleseed (Martian evironmentalists want to destroy Earth because it intefers with their view of Venus.)
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To: Semi Civil Servant
The same was true for CNBC, FoxNews and CNN.

From what I've read today, apparently some FReepers don't trust this administration's political instincts...but George W. Bush is one hell of a poker player.

112 posted on 04/10/2004 5:13:28 PM PDT by Chunga
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To: WhiteyAppleseed
Gosh, Whitey, you made has bold instead of the word after it, as it reads in the letter:

Our monitoring of the Commission’s hearings indicates that significant intelligence concerning the terrorist threat to the United States obtained between 1996 and early 2001 by various components of the U.S. Department of Justice has not been provided to the Commission

113 posted on 04/10/2004 5:17:16 PM PDT by WhiteyAppleseed (Scientists predicted darkness and gloom (eclipses) and demanded sacrifices. Nothing's changed.)
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To: Chunga
but George W. Bush is one hell of a poker player.

Very true. But as we speak, in the depths of their own hell, Dems are preparing talking points to fax into the vast left wing media conspiracy. Expect a counterattack shortly.

114 posted on 04/10/2004 5:17:30 PM PDT by rhombus
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To: avital2
"the Bush administration, with a shortened transition, short on confirmed staff into the summer of 2001, was supposed to reform/reformat the FBI, get the FBI and CIA to talk to each other..."

What gets lost in all this hoopla is that, in most respects, the FBI and CIA couldn't talk to each other on the subject of terrorism.

Because the Clinton-Reno Justice Dept had investigated and prosecuted terrorists as criminals, rather than enemy combatants, grand jury testimony was the primary source of evidence. By law, evidence collected by the prosecution in a grand jury remains confidential and cannot be shared with other agencies -- even if it has implications for national security.

One of the primary functions of the Patriot Act is to allow sharing of grand jury evidence -- if it has implications for national security.

In just about respect imaginable, the Clinton-Reno strategy for "fighting terrorism" was self-defeating.

115 posted on 04/10/2004 5:17:53 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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To: texasmountainman
Yeah, and CC JF'nK.
116 posted on 04/10/2004 5:18:09 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Liberty Valance
Speaking of that issue - Cal Thomas on Fox was making that very point today. He was not a happy camper about it either. He was outraged these commission people were all over the TV after each testimony acting as they were reporting on some sports game or something.

However, perhaps when and if there is another commission about anything - one of the rules HAS TO BE - NO TV INTERVIEWS REGARDING ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE TESTIMONIES - UNTIL THE REPORT IS RELEASED.
117 posted on 04/10/2004 5:18:09 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: CyberAnt
I didn't check. Mea Culpa and of course, that is correct.

But the FBI itself is going to take the brunt of the opproprium for this.

118 posted on 04/10/2004 5:18:20 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: Howlin
Like Rush said on Friday - ".....they want Bush behind those controls in the cockpits of the planes that flew the suicide missions and they will NOT be satisfied until they get the public to believe that it is so!!!!!!

I say we organize and FREEP the living hell out of any and all news outlets and organizations!

119 posted on 04/10/2004 5:21:57 PM PDT by soozla (1-877KARZFORKIDZ - makeitstop!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: hole_n_one
All I see backed out are the names of specific intelligence sources.

Thanx for posting the scans.
120 posted on 04/10/2004 5:23:46 PM PDT by reformedliberal
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